Down for the Count NEVER AGIAN PLEASE

[Jettinson]

Somehow I am dissapointed it wasn't meant for the first boss of Dusk Vigil... that one can get deleted.

And for cutscene bear in mind your character does not have a fixed job so the least they can do is do battle pose and then whatever. Some scenes are just awkward if you are healer, holding book etc. We do not get the fun way of fighting in cutscenes.
Still down for the count is a love/hate for me. Some work and some are needless (in Zen case, i didn't mind honestly)

[Payadopa]

It's bad story telling in games if you win in a fight only to loose in the following CS in my opinion. I really like these unwinnable battles for immersion.

[MilkieTea]

Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but isn't Down for the Count just a stun with a different animation to indicate a different thing happening?

[DreadCrow]

I'd rather have an unwinnable fight, that to lose in a cutscene. Down For The Count at least gives you the illusion you have a chance (even if you don't), which works better for immersion.

[VelKallor]

Thanks for the commiseration in this little flaw in the game, I don't know exactly why but it really gets under my skin when I do everything right and still fail... Just feels bad I guess compared to everything else they do right in this game.

Mikitan: Its a reminder though we may be the Warrior of Light, there are battles we will lose. There are battles that cannot be won...when we go up against someone who is far FAR more powerful than we are, who can stand against us and beat us..we are not all powerful, all knowing.

Real life teaches us this lesson as well, that there are times when it doesnt matter what we do...it will never be enough. Harsh, and necessary.

In the ST universe they call it the Kobiyashi Maru, a no win scenario. It isnt that we lose that matters, its that we stand up and take the fight to them..its how we handle defeat, how we cope when force of arms alone will not carry the day.

Take that from one who DID meet his own Kobiyashi Maru in real life...who even today is forced to accept the fact this was a war that could NOT be won.

It still hurts and always will, but I take comfort in the fact that at least I found the strength to fight, to snarl defiance at the inevitable.

How we handle defeat, what we do when we are on our knees, bloodied, whether we find the courage to stagger to our feet, weapon in hand, stare at our enemy and say "Was that the BEST you can do?"

It is in that time between seconds, the hairline thread between victory and defeat, that defines our character, our soul.....and our destiny.

For those we have lost...for those we can yet save.

[Kolsykol]

Seriously...

This is what makes you give up on the story?
I am not a big fan of it either, in some cases it makes sense but there's some where I think it was silly ( especially a certain old dude in Shadowbringers ).

But to just quit the story altogether seems like a pretty severe overreaction.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Maybe I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but isn't Down for the Count just a stun with a different animation to indicate a different thing happening?

It's pretty much stun, but instead of a timer, it lasts as long as the script needs it to.

[Larirawiel]

Yes, i hate it too. You fight a guy 10 minutes long and then he snips with his fingers an you lose. Maaaaaan .....

Cheers

[IckeDerTyp]

We're playing an anime, so at one point we Have to be beat up so we can have a training montage going,or something similar!

It's part of the story, not you effing up, so don't take it personal?

Goodluck msqing, or not. Goodluck either way ^^

[Liam_Harper]

I agree. I don't mind fights where the boss is clearly stronger lore-wise and just toying with you. But it's tedious when you're fighting a boss whose definitely weaker, who you steamroll a few quests later, but in that first fight they just stun you for a minute or two at a whim and you have to be saved by someone else.

Hardly the worst thing ever, just a minor annoyance.