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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Shinten is such an ugly skill. So unsatisfying to use. I very much prefer Kaiten over it. Kyuten is so much more fun over it as well.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Shinten is such an ugly skill. So unsatisfying to use. I very much prefer Kaiten over it. Kyuten is so much more fun over it as well.
    If Shinten stays while Kaiten goes, though, I suspect such will only be because Kaiten only has incredibly bound-up use while Shinten does not. You will only use Kaiten before Iaijutsu and you will never, short of failure, use Iaijutsu without it. One could therefore argue it's nothing but a Kenki and weave-tax, rather than an actual ability (or at least, a decision to be made).
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Shinten is such an ugly skill. So unsatisfying to use. I very much prefer Kaiten over it. Kyuten is so much more fun over it as well.
    I kinda wish Shinten had a different animation, it feels a bit stiff and out of place like it breaks the flow of the rest of the animations.
    It's not horrible and I mean it's a thrust it makes sense but it just doesn't feel as fluid as the rest.

    I wish Seigan's animation was swapped with Shinten, Seigan's animation looks way more fluid and weaves into the rest of the animations way better imo.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I kinda wish Shinten had a different animation, it feels a bit stiff and out of place like it breaks the flow of the rest of the animations.
    It's not horrible and I mean it's a thrust it makes sense but it just doesn't feel as fluid as the rest.

    I wish Seigan's animation was swapped with Shinten, Seigan's animation looks way more fluid and weaves into the rest of the animations way better imo.
    I actually loved the thrusting move. I think it's the one from two thrusting move that SAM has, the rest are slashes.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I actually loved the thrusting move. I think it's the one from two thrusting move that SAM has, the rest are slashes.
    I don't really mind it being a thrust, I just think that it looks too stiff tbh.
    It looks more like a pose if that makes sense.
    Like your character kinda strikes a pose and then holds it, it's kinda odd imo.

    I am not some kind of a fencing expert and obviously FFXIV isn't a realistic game, but I don't imagine that you want to hold a pose like that you want to keep moving stab and then retreat back.
    I do like having some actual thrusts in the animations too tho, Yukikaze for example looks great.

    Edit: With that said I actually think that a thrust would work better for Seigan sorta like '' parry and riposte '' it'd work better thematically imo.
    But I don't mind Shinten being a thrust either I just wish it was better.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 09-17-2021 at 04:34 PM.