Samurai have positionals?!

[Nothv13]

If you're taking more than one step to switch positions, you're doing positionals wrong. Executed properly, changing positionals will never take more than half a second. The GCD is between 4 and 5 times this, depending on your job and speed rating. Positonals are not a significant burden to warrant ignoring because "trying will just make you worse".

Again, yes trying will make some worse because they do not know the fights, they tank is moving the boss a lot, someone else died meaning the mechanics shift. Unless you got your rotation and fight on lock, trying to go for positionals can very well make you lose dps. Positionals are the smallest factor of your dps and absolutely last thing you should be paying attention to.

If people are struggling with their rotations then they shouldn't even be talking about this to begin with, and the numerical difference will be significantly magnified.
Back to the dummy and practice it.

And no one is saying to miss gcds for positionals I said the exact opposite.
Keeping your gcd rolling is like prio number one, that doesn't mean that everything else isn't important.

And yes crits make a huge difference but those crits would still be higher with positionals not to mention that you may actually be losing out on critical Shintens and that will only be magnified even further with gear.
Again it's just a bunch of excuses and strawman arguments, no one here is saying that you should be prioritizing positionals above surviving or your gcd.
What we're talking about here is people intentionally ignoring positionals don't try and shift the conversation.

I'm seeing people saying if you don't hit positionals then you suck and are losing a ton of damage which is largely untrue. Its the exact same mindset that leads the extreme toxic behaviors we see in other games, that peopel claim FFXIV avoids. That is what I get from this, despite that a person not trying to hit positionals could out dps a person trying to hit positions just out of luck on number of crits.

The 1% or so difference in damage takes into account the crit positionals. I'm not saying positionals do not matter to damage at all. I'm saying they only matter when trying to get the highest possible parse which is only a fraction of a fraction of the player base and that the vast vast majority will never be in a position where such matters, even if they are trying to be. Much much more important things to focus on to improve your play before even thinking about positionals except for on monk because pretty much all their GCDs are psoitionals.