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    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    Samurai have positionals?!

    I been trying melee dps these days, and noticed that samurai, different from dragoon and monk, don't have positional hint in description of skill, some say they do have POS, some say it doesn't. PLS help this humble noob (me) understand!
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    SAM is the only melee DPS that does not have extra initial potency in positionals, but it only has two that it needs to hit. Instead it unlocks a trait where it gains its gauge - Kenki, from hitting Gekko (back) and Kasha (side).

    If you've just unlocked it and you're at around 50-ish, then don't worry about it until you unlock the trait. The difference positionals make on SAM is pretty slim, so if you don't want to hit them, then you don't really have to.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Monk Lv 100
    Your positionals on Gekko and Kasha are each worth 64+ potency, which is quite high as far as positionals, other than (Leaden Fist) Bootshine are concerned. But, it's just those two.

    The less obvious disadvantage is that SAM, unlike those with normal, direct positional bonuses, will never have a decent reason not to bother with a positional; whereas others' bonuses might be overkill anyways, effectively leaving you free to finish off an enemy from wherever, SAM will want to get that extra Kenki regardless.
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Samurai gains Kenki by hitting positionals. Kenki is used to expend oGCD abilities that do a pretty nice potency or increase the attack of your weaponskill. I think it was roughly equivalent to 70 potency for 5 kenki overtime? So missing a positional is roughly around ~70 potency worth of damage.
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fellgon View Post
    I been trying melee dps these days, and noticed that samurai, different from dragoon and monk, don't have positional hint in description of skill, some say they do have POS, some say it doesn't. PLS help this humble noob (me) understand!
    No joke... ?
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    If you've just unlocked it and you're at around 50-ish, then don't worry about it until you unlock the trait. The difference positionals make on SAM is pretty slim, so if you don't want to hit them, then you don't really have to.
    Please stop encouraging people not to do positionals. So sick of people telling melee jobs that they aren't important. You lose out on free extra damage and can have your rotation messed up by ignoring them and choosing not to play your job correctly.
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Spamming Shintens are always addictive so you need to do the postionals anyway.
    Even you're not getting the trait yet, you still should to do the right positionals.
    Think of it as practice.
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    Junji Lucilfer
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    Freestyle Sam confirmed
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    Faux Ears
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitsithhh View Post
    Freestyle Sam confirmed
    As long as they're putting in the effort to try, which includes asking questions about the job, they're alright in my book.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    As long as they're putting in the effort to try, which includes asking questions about the job, they're alright in my book.
    100%

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