Adventurer in need

[Xuto-cxb]

Well, first I want to say that I didn't expect half the replies I got. I fully expected a few at most and then the thread to get buried in about five minutes flat. So thanks to everyone who felt it was worth sharing their thoughts on all this (minus the...rather heated bit about party size).

Pretty much everyone seems to disagree with me that any in bonus boost would make a difference, and after having taken the time to read through everything I'd have to say I am convinced you all have the right of it. There IS a mindset component to playing tank or healer, and no reasonable boost will change that. Larger ones will only result in people playing classes they don't want to and trying to rush to get it over with, leading to all sorts of quality of life and gameplay experience hits. I can attest firsthand about the mindset, especially with tanking. I've always enjoyed healing, big green numbers and hauling the party away from certain death give me the good brain juices. Content that cuts into the MT or chucks out big AOE's are just cotton candy to me.

Tanking I always wanted to try, but was too afraid to. Eventually I picked up DRK because I liked the aesthetic and the nifty dark magic type attacks and abilities they have. Started with guildhests to build confidence in basic positioning and aggro management. Then started doing low level dungeons, then eventually I got comfortable enough to do roulette's and never looked back. I plan to level the other tanks as well for more variety. I wonder sometimes if I am the exception to the rule, and most simply shy away from giving it a shot.

And then of course there are so MANY dps jobs, the variety alone can be enticing. I'm no exception here, I've been leveling a few myself. They're flashy, they have fun weave rotations, fun to pop off with. But...then eventually I get bored and want something more demanding. I always end up wanting to tank or heal again. And FFXIV IMO does a good job of giving the tanks and healers some really flashy abilities and neat ways to handle things the higher you get. Agree with the one guy who said I wish I had more damage spells though. A simple 1,2,3 rotation would be nice to have. Look cool, too.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you again to everyone who took the time to respond. It was really nice to hear all the feedback so I wasn't wondering about this in a vacuum. And it was REALLY nice that everyone was so civil and polite about it. Even though it was clearly an awful idea on my part, no one made me feel like an idiot.

Cheers.

[SturmChurro]

I mostly play tank in DF - except for raids/trials where I play healer (I prefer healer). This is due to achievement progress for tank that I can passively gain while doing dungeons. I won't do it without the adventurer in need bonus, as there is no point doing them otherwise. If I wanted to directly work on my tank mount achievements there are better methods for gaining clears. I do not think the once daily 'adventurer in need' bonus is the core issue here though, this game has more than enough of a playerbase to fill the queues. It's that players don't want to play tank/healer, either due to how those roles play or perceptions of them. Healer especially at the moment. Most players will queue as DPS, even if there is a bonus for playing one of the other roles. The solution would require more than just this.

[Rinhi]

Most players will queue as DPS, even if there is a bonus for playing one of the other roles.

I don't know about others, if I'm not leveling the class, because I know that there will be at least one DPS that does decent damage if I queue as a DPS :P

never had that long of a wait when I was leveling my dps.

lucky!

[SturmChurro]

I don't know about others, if I'm not leveling the class, because I know that there will be at least one DPS that does decent damage if I queue as a DPS :P

True enough. Sometimes you just have to do it yourself... but then you get tanks who single pull, and/or healers who can't heal. Literally can't win.

[kaynide]

Just more information, perspective, really:

SE has the data and has tried a lot of ways to encourage more people to play Tanks/Healers, but the playerbase till overwhelmingly plays DPS roles. Especially Tanks are a least preferred job to play overall.

Tanks get:
-A regular "In Need" bonus (not 100%, but very often this is the case)
-Their own achievement lines including 2 mounts PER Tank.

Healers get:
-A regular "In Need" bonus (also not 100% of course)
-One mount to encourage leveling Conjurer/White Mage.

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I expect this kind of trend to continue and should Healers also be very widely disliked/unplayed I would expect more "Carrots" to encourage play there as well.

[Payadopa]

If the issue is that there aren't enough people playing tanks and healers, instead of putting a down a bigger reward for playing those roles in roulettes SQEX should probably try and address the underlying issue of why more people aren't playing and having fun with those roles.

I have to agree. I main AST and do min ilvl trials/raids and it's mad fun. But the second I use Duty Roulette as healer I'm boooooored out of my mind. To the point where I barely do roulettes anymore. These days I see it more like a waste of time that's not enjoyable. So that's one healer main alienated by the system. Not sure how others feel, though.

[ItMe]

I have to agree. I main AST and do min ilvl trials/raids and it's mad fun. But the second I use Duty Roulette as healer I'm boooooored out of my mind. To the point where I barely do roulettes anymore. These days I see it more like a waste of time that's not enjoyable. So that's one healer main alienated by the system. Not sure how others feel, though.

Right?
I like tanking but straight up tell me FC "I'm not doing that for maps" because I just straight up fall asleep.
I totally understand where you're coming from.

[BluexBird]

As a tank, I only ever do trial and raid roulettes. Wish they'd add in an Extreme roulette so I could do that too, but eh...

[_Pigzig]

literally every mmo ever has this problem
deal w it

[Jojoya]

To be honest, the best incentive to get players to choose tank or healer when queuing already exists.

They get a much shorter queue time.

If I'm trying to top off tomestones for the week and decide to use a roulette to do it, I'm going to go tank or healer because I know I'll get a party faster. That lets me get back to doing other things faster.

AIN only influences which of the two I choose, not whether I'll choose them. The only time I go DPS is if I'm queuing with a group of friends and they're already filling the needed tank/healer roles.