Adventurer in need

[Xuto-cxb]

Ok, yes, I'm sure this has been brought up time and again but I REALLY just want to throw another two cents in. This has GOT to be improved, considerably. I play a lot of tank and healer, and can insta-queue into just about anything. That is not a good thing. It SOUNDS like it is, for obvious reasons, but it also means there is huge, unaddressed issue.

It means that there are just lines of groups waiting for someone of my role to jump in. I, personally, love doing roulettes, but many do them only once for the large daily bonus. I feel as though if the repeatable "in need" bonuses were higher, more tanks and healers would be available and DPS would not be languishing for so long for everything they want to do.

As it is, the "in need" bonus is paltry at best and insulting at worst. This game goes a long way to use matchmaking work so that players can at least do all the non-EX/Savage etc content without statics. But I feel like that would go a long way to help a very longstanding, very well known (and IMO, largely unaddressed) issue.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

its 100k a day if you do all the roulettes, thats a ton of gil when you dont spend any. I'm sitting on 117mil from largely roulettes lol..

[Deceptus]

its 100k a day if you do all the roulettes, thats a ton of gil when you dont spend any. I'm sitting on 117mil from largely roulettes lol..

While I do my expert daily, and leveling when I'm actually leveling jobs in a new expansion, don't act like the time spent for that 100K isn't significant.

Daily Expert takes 20m
Daily leveling takes 25m
Lvl 80 - 25m
5/6/7 - 25m
MSQ can easily take 45m-1h
PVP can take 20m
Alliance can take 30m depending if you get one of the later ones
Trials 15-20m or more depending if you wipe or not

All of that time is extremely inefficient for that amount of gil.

I say that as someone who just went over 100 mill from largely doing dailies as well. It's taken 8 years to get there.

But back on topic:

If you queue as the adventurer in need you should get ALL the bonuses of the normal roulette. It would definitely incentivize tanks and healers to queue. It doesn't happen often but I have seen DPS in need as well.

[Imora]

I don't mind tanking or healing but I do mind people telling me what to do when I know my own capabilities more than you do. I don't wall pull because I know unless my healers on the ball, I'm going to die if invuln is on CD. And the healers I get? Trash. Think glare mage that doesn't use ogcds or even look at health bars then blame me for not mitigating because I ran out because the dps was crap. That's happened a few times to me now.

I don't solo queue into dungeons anymore as a result. Not as a tank.

[Jeeqbit]

I don't mind tanking or healing but I do mind people telling me what to do when I know my own capabilities more than you do. I don't wall pull because I know unless my healers on the ball, I'm going to die if invuln is on CD. And the healers I get? Trash. Think glare mage that doesn't use ogcds or even look at health bars then blame me for not mitigating because I ran out because the dps was crap. That's happened a few times to me now.

When you run out of mitigation most enemies require you to be in melee range to attack you, so you can take a few steps back to delay their attacks while you get healed or run around in a circle so it doesn't affect melee and physical DPS.

[BaconBits]

When you run out of mitigation most enemies require you to be in melee range to attack you, so you can take a few steps back to delay their attacks while you get healed or run around in a circle so it doesn't affect melee and physical DPS.

Please for the love of God don't run in circles while I'm trying to burn the group of enemies down with aoes. All that results in is you still taking auto attacks from various enemies while anyone with aoes centered around them now has to chase them, and anyone that has to target enemies now have to deal with them potentially running out of range.

[Kahnom]

When you run out of mitigation most enemies require you to be in melee range to attack you, so you can take a few steps back to delay their attacks while you get healed or run around in a circle so it doesn't affect melee and physical DPS.

Oh my god.....
You're a mentor, are you.....?

[kaynide]

Bottom line, in roulette, Tank and Healer are just not as fun as DPS (subjective, but hear me out).

Tank has to pay attention and otherwise generally set the pace. There is an expectation overall to know mechanics and avoid or mitigate damage/needless death because if you (tank) die, everyone may die.

Healer similarly has some need to pay attention to tank busters/general mechanics in order to keep the party alive. Your job also becomes harder if the other players are terrible. Obviously your death significantly imperils the party.

This is not to say EITHER tank or healer is necessarily hard...it's just that DPS is that much easier to do. Even if you die, the party can generally trudge forth. You really only affect the speed the dungeon is cleared unless there are DPS/enrage checks. This lack of pressure is very appealing.

[Kikoten]

Bottom line, in roulette, Tank and Healer are just not as fun as DPS (subjective, but hear me out).

Tank has to pay attention and otherwise generally set the pace. There is an expectation overall to know mechanics and avoid or mitigate damage/needless death because if you (tank) die, everyone may die.

Healer similarly has some need to pay attention to tank busters/general mechanics in order to keep the party alive. Your job also becomes harder if the other players are terrible. Obviously your death significantly imperils the party.

This is not to say EITHER tank or healer is necessarily hard...it's just that DPS is that much easier to do. Even if you die, the party can generally trudge forth. You really only affect the speed the dungeon is cleared unless there are DPS/enrage checks. This lack of pressure is very appealing.

I actually used to think this way, but when I started tanking more (I'm a healer by trade, so healing is insta-fun for me, no matter what), the thought of having my work cut out for me actually made it more fun. Yeah, it sucks when I screw up and people get KO'd because of it, but without that risk, I get too complacent and start thinking tanking is boring.

[ItMe]

It means that there are just lines of groups waiting for someone of my role to jump in. I, personally, love doing roulettes, but many do them only once for the large daily bonus. I feel as though if the repeatable "in need" bonuses were higher, more tanks and healers would be available and DPS would not be languishing for so long for everything they want to do.

If the issue is that there aren't enough people playing tanks and healers, instead of putting a down a bigger reward for playing those roles in roulettes SQEX should probably try and address the underlying issue of why more people aren't playing and having fun with those roles.

If this dearth of tanks and healers exists and is that bad, it exists outside of roulettes. Putting a heavier "in need" bonus won't help fill slots in party finder. it won't help those roles show up more in PVP matches, etc. If there is an unhealthy imbalance in game, perhaps there is something about those roles that needs to an upgrade to draw more people to them.