Post your Grand Company Weapons!

[Frein]

Bahahaha everyone in this thread is pathetic except the OP. Use whatever the fuck you want man, I'm sure you'll still pwn either way. Min/Max noobs need to get a life and worry about their own equips instead of trying to decide how anyone should play. Also, parse or gtfo with your theorycraft. But in all seriousness, how brainless do you have to be to call anything bar "the best" as "useless". There's more than one viable way to do things, even if its not max efficiency. I'd theorycraft about why its not as inferior as ppl think, but i'd rather not. Test it yourself, or be quiet and keep to yourself I say.

He's not going to be gimp because he's not using the best weapon in the game. Do I really need to explain this? Everyone here is so brain dead.

No, he won't "pwn either way". Math doesn't work like that. Also, if there is an efficient way to do something and an inefficient way to do the same thing, you'd have to be pretty dumb to do it the inefficient way. As far as I can tell the GC lance has no niche and will under almost all conditions underperform other weapons that could be considered easier to obtain.

If you want to walk around with it because you think it looks great, go ahead, but really, don't kid yourself into thinking it was a good investment as far as your battle performance goes.

[Meatdawg]

No, he won't "pwn either way". Math doesn't work like that. Also, if there is an efficient way to do something and an inefficient way to do the same thing, you'd have to be pretty dumb to do it the inefficient way. As far as I can tell the GC lance has no niche and will under almost all conditions underperform other weapons that could be considered easier to obtain.

If you want to walk around with it because you think it looks great, go ahead, but really, don't kid yourself into thinking it was a good investment as far as your battle performance goes.

When you can't dispute math the only response appears to be "u jelly" and "u mad"

Clearly you were put in your place....

[Starlord]

When you can't dispute math the only response appears to be "u jelly" and "u mad"

Clearly you were put in your place....

Because, its not about the "Math" its about having fun... I can careless about stats.. as long as me, myself is having fun all else is irreverent. Thank you.

[Lux_Rayna]

No, he won't "pwn either way". Math doesn't work like that. Also, if there is an efficient way to do something and an inefficient way to do the same thing, you'd have to be pretty dumb to do it the inefficient way. As far as I can tell the GC lance has no niche and will under almost all conditions underperform other weapons that could be considered easier to obtain.

If you want to walk around with it because you think it looks great, go ahead, but really, don't kid yourself into thinking it was a good investment as far as your battle performance goes.

Are you kidding me? There's more than one "efficient" way besides the "best" way. This is what you're failing to understand. You substituted the "most efficient way" for "the only efficient way," completely forgetting about allllll that shit inbetween. So yes, math does work that way. Math tells you what is best, what is not as good, what is terrible, and what is utter garbage. So let me ask you, are all weapon besides Ifrits Harpoon "garbage"? Are they? OF course not. Are they as good. Not they're not. But are you going to run around calling everyone's class garbage because they're not using the best most efficient weapon that exists in the game? I hope not, or I would have to conclude you are brainless.

No one is disputing your claim to Ifrits being superior, though thats yet to be proven as of now with the new weapons. But I digress from that point. I am disputing your narrow way of thinking that anything inferior to the best gear possible is necessarily garbage. That is such an erroneous way of thinking I'm not sure whether to call you a troll, ignorant, or just misguided. I dont think you are trying to say that, but that *is* exactly what you have been saying. If you want to refine your point, go right ahead, but the OP wont be garbage for using a weapon you deem as inferior to the absolute best. There are "good" weapons, "comparable" weapons, and "average" weapons that exist before Ifrit weapons you know. You do know that right?

[Kiroh]

Are you kidding me? There's more than one "efficient" way besides the "best" way. This is what you're failing to understand. You substituted the "most efficient way" for "the only efficient way," completely forgetting about allllll that shit inbetween. So yes, math does work that way. Math tells you what is best, what is not as good, what is terrible, and what is utter garbage. So let me ask you, are all weapon besides Ifrits Harpoon "garbage"? Are they? OF course not. Are they as good. Not they're not. But are you going to run around calling everyone's class garbage because they're not using the best most efficient weapon that exists in the game? I hope not, or I would have to conclude you are brainless.

No one is disputing your claim to Ifrits being superior, though thats yet to be proven as of now with the new weapons. But I digress from that point. I am disputing your narrow way of thinking that anything inferior to the best gear possible is necessarily garbage. That is such an erroneous way of thinking I'm not sure whether to call you a troll, ignorant, or just misguided. I dont think you are trying to say that, but that *is* exactly what you have been saying. If you want to refine your point, go right ahead, but the OP wont be garbage for using a weapon you deem as inferior to the absolute best. There are "good" weapons, "comparable" weapons, and "average" weapons that exist before Ifrit weapons you know. You do know that right?

That's not the way math works...at all...

Math does not tell you what is good, bad or indifferent as those are subjective, emotionally loaded terms that cannot be measured on a mathematical scale. Math tells you two things :

1.) What the correct answer is.

2.) What the most efficient way to reach the correct answer is.

There are no multiple valid answers in math. A solution to a mathematical problem is either correct or incorrect.

[Starlord]

That's not the way math works...at all...

Math does not tell you what is good, bad or indifferent as those are subjective, emotionally loaded terms that cannot be measured on a mathematical scale. Math tells you two things :

1.) What the correct answer is.

2.) What the most efficient way to reach the correct answer is.

There are no multiple valid answers in math. A solution to a mathematical problem is either correct or incorrect.

And she wasn't disputing math.. She was just saying that people just think Primal Weapons is what everyone uses.. and if you don't use it.. Your a noob for not using it.. thus people telling you how to play the game.. That's all she was saying.. and what I'm saying as well.. I love my new lance Over Ifrit.. because its fun to use it over Ifrit, Not because it's Mathematically better!.

[Frein]

No one is disputing your claim to Ifrits being superior, though thats yet to be proven as of now with the new weapons. But I digress from that point. I am disputing your narrow way of thinking that anything inferior to the best gear possible is necessarily garbage. That is such an erroneous way of thinking I'm not sure whether to call you a troll, ignorant, or just misguided. I dont think you are trying to say that, but that *is* exactly what you have been saying. If you want to refine your point, go right ahead, but the OP wont be garbage for using a weapon you deem as inferior to the absolute best. There are "good" weapons, "comparable" weapons, and "average" weapons that exist before Ifrit weapons you know. You do know that right?

You clearly missed the part where I said the GC lance has no niche because it's harder to obtain than other superior weapons (and I'm not referring to Ifrit's Harpoon here).

[Lux_Rayna]

You clearly missed the part where I said the GC lance has no niche because it's harder to obtain than other superior weapons (and I'm not referring to Ifrit's Harpoon here).

; ; "harder to obtain" is a very very very subjective point of view. All it requires is a certain amount of seals. I know quite a few seal whores in my ls, I wouldn't call it difficult. Of course its hard for someone like me who hates farming totorak for seals, and is too lazy to stockpile items for provision missions. But to each his own.

Also I do not understand what you mean by "niche". A weapon has a niche if someone is willing to use it, and if it is a viable weapon for current content. As this weapon was released in conjunction with current content, is a high level weapon, and has a great raw dps output, we can reasonably conclude that it is a "viable" weapon for current content. As such, it has this mysterious "niche" you're referring to, which means you have no basis for calling it trash. And quite frankly, you're reasoning is a bit silly since "difficulty" has nothing at all to do with a weapon's viability. If I want to use a weapon thats harder to obtain than a superior weapon, so be it. Does it matter? No. The weapon has a niche because I like it and I want to use it, and it is comparable to other higher class weapons. That being the case, your justification for trashing it is still erroneous. Just say you dont like the weapon because it doesn't suit the level of play you'd like to play at.

Calling it trash, or useless, or without a niche, is just brainless. You are quite a lot smarter than that I imagine, so I don't see the need for you to lower your intellectual output in a pointless attack of a weapon choice made by an individual you won't even be playing with. Even if you had to play with him, I'm sure you would find it is good enough to do whatever needs be done in current content even if it is not the best. Long story short, there's no viable reason for this madness, so I encourage you to just let it be. Quite frankly, excellent skill rotation trumps any difference in gear choice at the end of the day. I"d bet an arm and a leg that a great player with a GC lance can easily outparse an avg player with an Ifrits Harpoon, just because his skill rotation would be that much better, thus that much more effective, thus that much more damage regardless of the statistical difference in weaponry. Would he be *that* much more awesome if he chose an Ifrits harpoon. Sure. But we aren't talking about min/maxing here, we are talking about viability.

[Irzibe]

Bahahaha everyone in this thread is pathetic except the OP. Use whatever the fuck you want man, I'm sure you'll still pwn either way. Min/Max noobs need to get a life and worry about their own equips instead of trying to decide how anyone should play. Also, parse or gtfo with your theorycraft. But in all seriousness, how brainless do you have to be to call anything bar "the best" as "useless". There's more than one viable way to do things, even if its not max efficiency. I'd theorycraft about why its not as inferior as ppl think, but i'd rather not. Test it yourself, or be quiet and keep to yourself I say.

He's not going to be gimp because he's not using the best weapon in the game. Do I really need to explain this? Everyone here is so brain dead.

This is the first time ever I agree with Lux. ;o

[Deltara]

That's a pretty sweet-looking lance, dude. I'm jealous of LNC because it seems like all of the lances look cool.