Provoke does no damage

[Hanayumi]

Whenever I come across other tanks that just refuse to take their stance off I just use my range attack. Its the best enmity generator other than your heaviest hitting skills. A lot of other Mmos dont really use a stance for tanking but rather taunts and such, which provoke is the closest thing to, where in ffxiv its more for picking up any rogue mobs, or tank swapping in high end fights.

[TaleraRistain]

Whenever I come across other tanks that just refuse to take their stance off I just use my range attack. Its the best enmity generator other than your heaviest hitting skills. A lot of other Mmos dont really use a stance for tanking but rather taunts and such, which provoke is the closest thing to, where in ffxiv its more for picking up any rogue mobs, or tank swapping in high end fights.

Exactly, this the other key point. Stances don't exist in a lot of other games. Keeping aggro is entirely based on the skills you use.

I don't care if someone uses it in a dungeon or even alliance raids if all the tanks stay on the same side. It gets annoying when you have the jerk who stands on the exact opposite side of the mob so they can constantly spin the boss and cleave the raid. Had someone do that in WoD before. They refused to MT, but stood on the other aside and yanked eyeball boy and the hydra numerous times to cleave the raid when I was MT. We got their party to kick them before we had to go through that in the Cerberus fight, thankfully, though they made it hard by refusing to roll and then trying to run into Cerberus at first to lock their party out of kicking them.