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    Or they could get rid of map aether currents completely since their only function is to waste time.

    They don't make you explore any more of the map than the MSQ and Blue aether current quests do and only serve to pad things out for no good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Or they could get rid of map aether currents completely since their only function is to waste time...
    It all depends on your 'opinion' of what 'wasting time' is to you.

    Playing a game is wasting time to some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjacon View Post
    It all depends on your 'opinion' of what 'wasting time' is to you.

    Playing a game is wasting time to some people.
    Generally, yes, but in this case no. It's not a matter of opinion.

    Aether currents could only serve 2 purposes: 1) encourage exploration outside of the MSQ path or 2) gateway so that you don't zoom across the map while doing MSQ

    Except 1) is done a lot better with Sightseeing logs, hunts, job/role quests, sidequests, beast tribe quests, etc. and Aether Currents don't tend to be too far off from the MSQ path so you don't end up exploring much (best examples would be Churning Mists were the entirety of the top of the map is left unexplored)

    And 2) you can achieve exactly the same result by unlocking flight at the end of the MSQ for a particular area, which is kinda what currently happens since a most of zones in Stormblood and all in Shadowbringers have the last MSQ of a zone giving you the last Aether Current.

    So as you see, Aether Currents are a waste of time due to the facts I've described. Facts are not opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Generally, yes, but in this case no. It's not a matter of opinion.

    Aether currents could only serve 2 purposes: 1) encourage exploration outside of the MSQ path or 2) gateway so that you don't zoom across the map while doing MSQ

    Except 1) is done a lot better with Sightseeing logs, hunts, job/role quests, sidequests, beast tribe quests, etc. and Aether Currents don't tend to be too far off from the MSQ path so you don't end up exploring much (best examples would be Churning Mists were the entirety of the top of the map is left unexplored)

    And 2) you can achieve exactly the same result by unlocking flight at the end of the MSQ for a particular area, which is kinda what currently happens since a most of zones in Stormblood and all in Shadowbringers have the last MSQ of a zone giving you the last Aether Current.

    So as you see, Aether Currents are a waste of time due to the facts I've described. Facts are not opinions.
    This.

    I would also add that they also actually screw up progression through the zone because many people will run around and do the currents as soon as they access a new zone. Therefore going to parts of the zone they wouldn't see before the story takes them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Or they could get rid of map aether currents completely since their only function is to waste time.

    They don't make you explore any more of the map than the MSQ and Blue aether current quests do and only serve to pad things out for no good reason.
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    Such a compelling argument as to why they aren't a trash waste of time.

    Lemme guess, everything Squenix does is perfect and should not be questioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Such a compelling argument as to why they aren't a trash waste of time.

    Lemme guess, everything Squenix does is perfect and should not be questioned.
    Why would I argue with you. This has been in the game for 8 years and no one has died from doing it yet. It's not broken and just because some folks want to fly instantly without putting in the effort to obtain flight I just don't agree with that. If you can't spare time exploring the world you play in why are you even here? (You being subjective) not trying to single you out. But I don't understand why you think they care about the fact your inconvenienced? Since it's been a non issue for 8 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Why would I argue with you. This has been in the game for 8 years and no one has died from doing it yet. It's not broken and just because some folks want to fly instantly without putting in the effort to obtain flight I just don't agree with that. If you can't spare time exploring the world you play in why are you even here? (You being subjective) not trying to single you out. But I don't understand why you think they care about the fact your inconvenienced? Since it's been a non issue for 8 years?
    Now I see why you didn't post your argument....it's terrible.

    1) No one has claimed anyone "died" from anything. So hyperbole and strawman.

    2) Literally not a single person in this thread has argued for flying instantly when entering a zone, The quest currents would still be in game. So yeap, another strawman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Now I see why you didn't post your argument....it's terrible.

    1) No one has claimed anyone "died" from anything. So hyperbole and strawman.

    2) Literally not a single person in this thread has argued for flying instantly when entering a zone, The quest currents would still be in game. So yeap, another strawman.
    Dude you are the one saying get rid of it, I'm not here to argue for your amusement. I just flat out don't agree with you and you changed the subject of the thread. So I'm my eyes you are trolling. The subject is making it easier by allowing a passinger on a 2 or more person mount be able to use the compass. So yeah I agree with the OP about that change but I don't agree with getting rid of the system of finding aether currents. Don't care if you think it's strawman or what ever other buzz words you have picked up to look like a cool kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    Dude you are the one saying get rid of it, I'm not here to argue for your amusement. I just flat out don't agree with you and you changed the subject of the thread. So I'm my eyes you are trolling. The subject is making it easier by allowing a passinger on a 2 or more person mount be able to use the compass. So yeah I agree with the OP about that change but I don't agree with getting rid of the system of finding aether currents. Don't care if you think it's strawman or what ever other buzz words you have picked up to look like a cool kid.
    Just wondering what benefit do they offer outside of serving as a gate keeper to flying? Exploring the world? One could still do that without the currents. While I respect your opinion, I cannot help but feel your reasoning for keeping them in the game boarders one well I had to do it, so why should future players not have to.

    If they game had world PvP, or threatening over world content I could see where you are coming from as a means of cheapening the overall experience. Though let us be real FFXIV over world experience is meh at the best.
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