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  1. #1
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Let me first say that I do not doubt you in any way whatsoever, and my purpose here is to ask for advice, not to antagonize or contradict you. I often have a hard time with Myath in Sohm Ahl. It feels like a crap shoot with respect to whether or not we're able to take down the appropriate primordials before the group wipes. I've been going off this guide here: https://smolsquintina.wordpress.com/...mission-guide/

    Do you have any suggestions for making this go more smoothly?
    Not the person you asked but pretty sure you can go faster than even 12 minutes for Sohm Ahl. When I get home I guess I can try, but there were other dungeons I know the time of that were like 'literally impossible' to go faster in a DF but you could finish them in HALF the time with your squadron. Really fast and easy exp. Certain dungeons are your target though because boss mechanics can make it less enjoyable experience with squadrons.

    Trick was to get everyone on offensive (at max rank), and make sure you have the right jobs as not all jobs were created equal. I haven't tried them all myself but I've heard really bad things about some jobs (classes..). I have Arcanist and Archers which both seem to do well, the range is nice as you can keep things going and not have the entire show come to a halt because they AI decided to derp. You will need to modify your strategy a little based on which job you are but your max rank team is pretty hearty so let them go take a lot of the heat.

    Like.. besides boss mechanics that's the trick lol. Just max rank offensive and melt everything.

    I mean you'll do so much damage I don't even attack the mountain slime (second boss mechanic that wipes your party).. just kill the boss before the thing even can finish.

    Squadrons are WAY stronger, in perspective (obviously they can't do the same content), to Trusts. It makes trusts feel kind of sad lol. I love the dialog and that they have a bit more smarter sense to them, but I feel like if my squadron and trust members got into a fight my squadron would delete the trust. XD. I do hope there is a more exciting and friendly progression system for trusts in the future to help with that.

    Most annoying aspect of squadrons is how little they care and cannot easily handle certain mechanics, like if you don't have a good aoe skill while fighting that goblin tank contraption when it does the bomb spread.. Ha Ha Ha - good luck.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-09-2021 at 01:41 AM.

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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Monk Lv 90
    I’d like more glams option for trust companions.
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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Let me first say that I do not doubt you in any way whatsoever, and my purpose here is to ask for advice, not to antagonize or contradict you. I often have a hard time with Myath in Sohm Ahl. It feels like a crap shoot with respect to whether or not we're able to take down the appropriate primordials before the group wipes. I've been going off this guide here: https://smolsquintina.wordpress.com/...mission-guide/

    Do you have any suggestions for making this go more smoothly?
    As others have stated you need maxed out (Rank 5) Offensive. Everyone must have it, even CNJ.

    The key to all squadron dungeons is that you will be the only thing targeted by boss mechanics. You would also be the only one who can execute boss mechanics. So, in my opinion, the idea is to burn the bosses down as fast as possible.

    As to make your journey smoother:
    For the first boss, I wouldn’t be worried about the mechanics. Just burn it down.
    Second boss you can do one of two things:
    1. Use Disengage to have the squads stack on you for the Red Slimes.
    2. Just run to a DPS/Healer squad and stack with them.

    I tend to do #2 as I want to keep the squad on the boss.

    Unless I fat finger something, I usually never have to touch the Mountain slime as the boss dies before it would go off.

    For the third boss, you will have to use Engage on the wings when the wing phase comes up. The squad will just keep attacking the invulnerable body if you don’t do that.

    For your reference, avoid these classes for your squads:
    THM, GLD, PGL, and LCN.

    THM just has bad damage all around.

    GLD, even though it has that coveted Flash spell, its damage is very bad. Yes, it is “easier” for GLD to grab hate, but the trade for that smallest amount of time-frame isn’t worth the damage loss.

    PGL and LCN both are decent DPS, but are surpassed by ARC, ACN, and ROG.

    If you want fast kill times, I would go with MRD tank and at least on ROG. If you are going as a healer or tank, then I would personally suggest to double up on the ROG. You could go with ARC for some variety or ACN for quicker trash clears.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    10 is nothing compared to get a lv80 all trust achievement for some limited glamour.

    But either i doubt we will get anything new from them, let alone unlocking new GC ranks.
    I enjoyed leveling my trusts.

    Even if a specific red mage keeps standing in everything.
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    Brielle Artemus
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    Would like to see updates to Squadrons as well, as that's how I leveled my tank jobs.
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I enjoyed leveling my trusts.

    Even if a specific red mage keeps standing in everything.
    I do not doubt people that enjoy levelling with trusts, it is more the over exaggeration that you "suffer" for only doing 10 squadron dungeon for emotes compared to what Trusts give once all lv80 .

    Plus for bonus, getting Captain rank gives access to ilv135 GC weapons which are good either for glamour or for people who still has a lv50 or such job and want to use tomes for other gears.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeidis View Post
    Are there any plans on bringing squadron back to max level? I really enjoyed this system and preferred it over Trusts. I understand it didn't make sense for them to be in ShB dungeons.

    Also it would be nice having the option of using a squadron member as a companion instead of your chocobo
    I doubt they would ever increase squadrons to level cap since they're using the Trust system for content past 80. The most I would expect would be for them to extend them to level 70 to fill the 60-70 gap for NPC companions substituting for using Duty Finder for players with social anxiety or who prefer approaching this as a purely solo player game.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettinson View Post
    I do not doubt people that enjoy levelling with trusts, it is more the over exaggeration that you "suffer" for only doing 10 squadron dungeon for emotes compared to what Trusts give once all lv80 .

    Plus for bonus, getting Captain rank gives access to ilv135 GC weapons which are good either for glamour or for people who still has a lv50 or such job and want to use tomes for other gears.
    I leveled them with an 80 and still use them if I'm farming a specific item like the damned Amarout music roll.

    You get a title for leveling them. I didn't do it for that though. I mostly did it for something to do.

    They're leveling my sch currently.
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    Akatsuki Shadowsbane
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Unless I misread something they've already shared that Trusts are being expanded back into Stormblood content which would pretty much imply Squadrons are all they're ever going to be. If I can find the interview or release talking about Trusts and Stormblood content I'll share it in a new post.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon_Windborne View Post
    Unless I misread something they've already shared that Trusts are being expanded back into Stormblood content which would pretty much imply Squadrons are all they're ever going to be. If I can find the interview or release talking about Trusts and Stormblood content I'll share it in a new post.
    I don't remember this ever being said. Trusts are 100% going forward into EW content though, that's all that I'm aware of.
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