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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think it's partly just for ease of moderating in this context.

    Out in the real world if a brand wants to use it as a name or whatever with no negative connotations, and consumers accept that, that's their business.

    Within the game, if someone wants to use it there is a fair chance that they are doing it deliberately and I don't think it's unreasonable for the moderators to just block it outright as an option. There will be a very small number of people who might want to innocently use the name, but with a near-infinite range of names to be created overall, the chances of it being an inconvenience are low.
    I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
    It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
    In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

    I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
    There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
    I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.
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    You can't use grapefruit as retainer name ether cause it contains rape in it. Kind silly to block anything containing a word inside the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erza_Scarlets View Post
    You can't use grapefruit as retainer name ether cause it contains rape in it. Kind silly to block anything containing a word inside the name.
    Funny part is every other game I've played actually looks at the rest of the word to determine if it's okay to use or not.

    WoW had some backlash about it before and even the text profanity filter would pick up words like grape and stuff. God forbid you want to share a chicken recipe with guildmates. They've since revised it due to feedback. Why SE can't do this is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
    It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
    In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

    I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
    There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
    I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.
    That OK symbol thing actually originated on 4chan and they took the bait.

    That's how people are these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    Search Thule Society. It has a most colorful history. Explaining it(or even linking it) here might get a ban.
    Be idiotic if they did considering Thule is one of the worlds foremost outdoor equipment brands too. A simple google search will spit out the brand before anything to do with far right nationalist groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
    It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
    In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

    I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
    There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
    I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.
    On the first page of google results there is a wikipedia page on Thule. In it's table of contents it lists "In N*zi Ideology" as an entire category.
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajantisz View Post
    Be idiotic if they did considering Thule is one of the worlds foremost outdoor equipment brands too. A simple google search will spit out the brand before anything to do with far right nationalist groups.
    Yeah true, but that might be for NA google. Its probably different for JP google, or some other country.

    Plus it might be overkill, but they might just want to get rid of the words that might be problematic. Like some stuff that we don't find offensive might be highly offensive in other languages. Its the problem with globally launched games.

    EDIT: Also it might be what google knows that you look for. I've done military history stuff in the past so its right up top.
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    Last edited by Thaciscokidd; 09-11-2021 at 08:38 PM. Reason: Searched it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    EDIT: Also it might be what google knows that you look for. I've done military history stuff in the past so its right up top.
    Always worth taking into consideration.
    I was curious (especially since I don't use Google) so I tested this and I saw 0 search results about N*zi, almost everything was about that Swedish outdoorsman brand, and the single result that wasn't was a Wikipedia article about old world cartography:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Always worth taking into consideration.
    I was curious (especially since I don't use Google) so I tested this and I saw 0 search results about N*zi, almost everything was about that Swedish outdoorsman brand, and the single result that wasn't was a Wikipedia article about old world cartography:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
    Same.

    Brings up the company, and companies selling them for me. As well at the group that owns the company.

    I absolutely detest blanket bans on words with obscure meanings. Or innocent words in other languages getting nailed because it's spelled as an inappropriate word in English. See: Swedish.
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