Confusing Restricted Names

[Imora]

You guys are over thinking it lol

Nah, There are a couple reasons.

But the part that gets me if it doesn't check if there's other context.

I can use any actual word with that letter combination in every other mmo I've played, yet here it's problematic. Why?

Drapes has nothing to do with that so why censor it. It's legit a set of curtains.

[hobostew]

Nah, There are a couple reasons.

But the part that gets me if it doesn't check if there's other context.

I can use any actual word with that letter combination in every other mmo I've played, yet here it's problematic. Why?

Drapes has nothing to do with that so why censor it. It's legit a set of curtains.

Because their word filter is super basic. It's not really some big mystery c'mon.

[Kolsykol]

Apparently there's some big fishing group/ store in Sweden too called '' Thule Group '' founded by a family with Thulin as their last name.
'' Thule '' actually sounds like a last name you'd hear around the north, that was actually my first thought when I read it before hearing about the Nazi stuff.

But I mean there are so many things this could be said about, and I also think there's a difference between the Nazi's having used the same term, name or even symbol and actual Nazi connections.
The Swastika for example is still used in Asia as a religious symbol.
I don't think that means the Swastika as a religious symbol in Asia should be censored or that it has connections to them in that sense.

It's the same with Norse mythology and history too, I see a lot of foreigners talk about it like it's '' connected to the Nazi's '' just because some of them obsessed about it and because there are people who still do and happen to be racist.
I mean...
It's literally part of my history.......
It has absolutely nothing to do with them in reality, just because they had some weird hard-on for something doesn't mean that they get to claim it forever or that it's '' theirs ''.

Like there is a difference between simply using the name '' Thule '' and between using the term '' Thule Society '' and then especially if you use or say other things connected to them too.
Or using the Swastika in a religious sense and using it in the bad way.

[Iscah]

Like there is a difference between simply using the name '' Thule '' and between using the term '' Thule Society '' and then especially if you use or say other things connected to them too.
Or using the Swastika in a religious sense and using it in the bad way.

I think it's partly just for ease of moderating in this context.

Out in the real world if a brand wants to use it as a name or whatever with no negative connotations, and consumers accept that, that's their business.

Within the game, if someone wants to use it there is a fair chance that they are doing it deliberately and I don't think it's unreasonable for the moderators to just block it outright as an option. There will be a very small number of people who might want to innocently use the name, but with a near-infinite range of names to be created overall, the chances of it being an inconvenience are low.

[Kolsykol]

I think it's partly just for ease of moderating in this context.

Out in the real world if a brand wants to use it as a name or whatever with no negative connotations, and consumers accept that, that's their business.

Within the game, if someone wants to use it there is a fair chance that they are doing it deliberately and I don't think it's unreasonable for the moderators to just block it outright as an option. There will be a very small number of people who might want to innocently use the name, but with a near-infinite range of names to be created overall, the chances of it being an inconvenience are low.

I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.

[Imora]

I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.

That OK symbol thing actually originated on 4chan and they took the bait.

That's how people are these days.

[MilkieTea]

I kinda agree with you I just disagree with it because I think it's lazy and catches people in the crossfire.
It's like moderating words in a lazy and broad way too, you end up censoring completely harmless words in other languages just because they have a '' naughty word '' built into it.
In worst case scenarios people can even end up being banned from platforms altogether because they used their real name which has happened before, even tho it's common in your native country.

I don't think that it should be assumed that someone is doing it deliberately for a negative reason either, when I google '' Thule '' nothing related to that bad stuff even comes up ( could be based on location tho ).
There's a lot of other stuff like this I can think of like the okay hand symbol and how people lost their minds about that and started going after completely innocent people, I just believe more in benefit of the doubt.
I get that companies are not going to operate like that, I just fundamentally disagree with it and will criticize it.

On the first page of google results there is a wikipedia page on Thule. In it's table of contents it lists "In N*zi Ideology" as an entire category.

[Erza_Scarlets]

You can't use grapefruit as retainer name ether cause it contains rape in it. Kind silly to block anything containing a word inside the name.

[Imora]

You can't use grapefruit as retainer name ether cause it contains rape in it. Kind silly to block anything containing a word inside the name.

Funny part is every other game I've played actually looks at the rest of the word to determine if it's okay to use or not.

WoW had some backlash about it before and even the text profanity filter would pick up words like grape and stuff. God forbid you want to share a chicken recipe with guildmates. They've since revised it due to feedback. Why SE can't do this is beyond me.