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  1. #1
    Player
    Ayuhra's Avatar
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    I heard of this difference, and the census showing savage clears also showed this gap, but it really hit hard when i watched asmon streams, and saw how quickly everything melts, and how few of ppl mess up mechanics. thats when i really understood the difference
    Asmongold's streams are less indicative of the skill of Aether and more indicative of the fact that you are more likely to get world first raiders showing up to guide you through content and flex for a camera if you are a popular streamer. That's not a knock against Asmon's streams, that's just the truth. The average player is not going to attract the sorts of players he does.
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    never had any problems with "skill gap"

    guess I must be unskilled and just dont know it
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I recently transferred off aether as well to crystal. My regret though is how the content is tackled. In my experience thus far being on crystal, there is a huge skill gap compared to aether. Everything feels slower now. People don’t seem to try as often. Its hard to explain unless you’ve played on both datacenters
    One of the biggest problems was when we had the server shuffle, so many good players left Crystal servers for fear the general competency of players would suffer due to it now being "the RP data center". It was a self-fulfilling prophecy that held no water but spooked enough people that they effectively caused it to happen.

    RPers can be quite good players and amazing at raids, but the offerings of such have slimmed down quite a bit due to everyone going to Aether for raiding. Add in our current content lull as we wait for Endwalker, and most actual raiders and good players on the DC have taken their usual breaks as they chill and do other stuff until EW early access.

    Plus we have all the new players coming in from WoW and elsewhere, which is bringing in a lot of fresh faces who are still learning the game. Unfortunately many are not going to be able to improve unless they actively try to, because so many people baby sprouts as if a single bit of friendly and polite advice will shatter their fragile self esteem or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    never had any problems with "skill gap"

    guess I must be unskilled and just dont know it
    I mean-- yeah, probably.

    Most players who don't see any form of skill gap or the copious amount of problems with how a good majority of the casual playerbase plays tend to be at the same skill level as those players, being honest with you. (And before anyone says anything, 'casual' is a catch all term for "doesn't do raid content or on-content extremes". Of which I myself also fall under, now that I stopped doing Savage due to lack of time.)

    If you aren't aware of how gameplay can be improved or how poorly you yourself might be playing, it's going to be difficult to see how poorly others are playing - baring severe stuff, like multiple party wipes and etc.



    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    You transferred to Balmung 2.

    The rest of Crystal is not that bad.

    Also not sure why SE did not label Balmung/Mateus as Congested or Standard.

    Making them preferred was a huge mistake especially if players who transfer are thinking of getting ward housing.
    I honestly don't know why anyone would be having problems on Balmung, at least. Personally we've not had any major issues lately, other than some severe lag in cities due to how many people are packed in them.

    I'm used to Ul'dah being bad because of the Quicksands, and Limsa's aetheryte being fairly packed from world hoppers shopping around, but even Gridania is a lagfest in the markets and at the Aetheryte now.

    Can't say much for how Mateus is performing, though. I only visit it like once a week for price checking on Exarchic gear when I inevitably need to quick-gear up an alt.
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 09-08-2021 at 09:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Yeah Aether is completely shut down but Jenova's been congested most of the time for months and all we have is the occasional 100ish login queue that's gone in a couple minutes. So I don't know that many on this server even noticed a difference.
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    MPK's Avatar
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Why would you transfer to crystal? Do you not like raiding?
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    Lexis's Avatar
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    Lu'kas Steinfheld
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I made a character on Leviathan (Primal) and got a job to 80 with it, then started playing my old Zalera(Crystal) character and it does feel like the overall group quality in duty finder is lower on Crystal. People do seem friendlier though so I'm currently debating which server to play on come Endwalker. I'd like to try my hand at Savage raiding, is it really impossible to find groups on Crystal?

    Queue times are the exact same on both servers and I've yet to experience any form of lag so that's not a factor.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    The quality of casual content isn't different on aether really, because most people doing that content are new or returning to the game and don't know what they are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexis View Post
    I'd like to try my hand at Savage raiding, is it really impossible to find groups on Crystal?
    It's perfectly possible. People farm extreme and savage on there too. There may be less people interested in it overall but that doesn't mean nobody is, it does not mean that there are no parties and it does not mean that they aren't good enough to clear.
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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The quality of casual content isn't different on aether really, because most people doing that content are new or returning to the game and don't know what they are doing.
    I mean certain servers have different reputations. Faerie and Gilgamesh are usually good servers for people who want to play the game at higher tiers. There are definitely a couple servers on aether that stand out though. I always likened Jenova to Balmung for example. Each server itself has its own, atmosphere I’ll call it. But data centres as a whole, it goes beyond new or returning players. I just did a Syrcus run yesterday with hardly a sprout. We were just about to enter the phase where u jump from panel to panel. Before that, we wiped 3 times in LotA. “Most fun I’ve had in a long time” was the general consensus.

    Crystal as a whole is very casual. Not meant in a demeaning way. Very relaxed. Sometimes scary. (Looking at you Uldah on balmung). They play the content that way too
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I mean certain servers have different reputations. Faerie and Gilgamesh are usually good servers for people who want to play the game at higher tiers. There are definitely a couple servers on aether that stand out though. I always likened Jenova to Balmung for example.
    Not really surprising since when Balmung and Mateus were on Aether, Jenova was like the #3 RP server on the Data Center. Then they both got split off onto Crystal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    My main is on Zalera(Crystal) and I have an alt on Jenova(Primal I think)
    We're on Aether, but yes we are a friendly bunch
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 09-12-2021 at 10:30 AM.

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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Jye Greene
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    Malboro
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexis View Post
    I'd like to try my hand at Savage raiding, is it really impossible to find groups on Crystal?
    This isn't like WoW where you raid with a whole guild. You only need to find 7 others, it's easily doable. It just means there's less interest in raiding overall across the general population.
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