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  1. #11
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Realistically relocation should not be a thing at all.

    Seriously, why are people who already have a house rewarded with the ability to jump to the head of the line on a new plot?

    EDIT: Relocation could be an option AFTER the relocator stands there clicking with everyone else.
    Because relocation doesn't remove a housing plot, it's a net neutral change, one plot for one plot. You can just find their old plot and try that one instead.
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    I think the current relocation timer is too low. It's only five minutes. Some players have trolled others by relocating to open plots to thwart those doing placard spam only to relocate again when they move on to another open plot. I know not many people do this but it shouldn't be possible to so easily repeatedly troll players like that. And before anyone says that's an expensive way to troll, most plots are cottages which are not expensive and anyone with a house already has a very cheap relocation fee. It's not difficult to make enough gil to be able to cover the cost of multiple cottage relocations in a short space of time.

    I think the relocation cd should be a week. It's short enough that you're not going to be locked out of relocation for a very long time, but long enough that it cannot be spammed to troll people.
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    Marius De'romanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Because relocation doesn't remove a housing plot, it's a net neutral change, one plot for one plot. You can just find their old plot and try that one instead.
    It's not neutral.

    It gives the current house owner priority for getting the better house (or else they wouldn't be relocating).

    It also turns the newly opened lot into a scavenger hunt to find.

    Finally it resets the timer.
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  4. #14
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    I was wondering why the same couple of plots on the mist and the goblet keep on popping up.

    I've honestly thought about reporting it but couldn't find anything concrete.
    It's become a real issue and I'm only aware of it because of my friend who is placard clicking and a member of the housing discord.

    There is one plot on Balmung in Goblet's Brimming Heart in my ward 17 where I have my FC that had 3 transfers in 24 hours with one person saying they made a mistake. Would have loved for her to get that one but Brimming Heart is a place where transfers into are pretty common. It's simply become a joke really. Relocations are a good thing but their needs to be a limit to how often one can do it.

    I have relocated twice in my housing history, once to another small near the water in Lavender and a second time to a medium in Shirogane. The Shirogane transfer took place during new ward additions with 4.2.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 09-08-2021 at 06:38 PM.

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Three months is rather excessive. I would like to see the relocation cooldown changed to at least 48 hours, though. That would reduce the chances of it being used as a griefing tactic since the relocator would lose any chance to move back to their old plot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post

    It gives the current house owner priority for getting the better house (or else they wouldn't be relocating).
    There are a few players (fortunately few) who aren't relocating to get a better house. They're doing it to reset the purchase timers, wasting the time of those who have been waiting. They like to claim they're just messing with those who use bots/auto-clickers but the reality is they're also screwing things up for everyone trying to buy.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-09-2021 at 04:18 AM.

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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It's happening on Balmung right now it's all over the housing discord with people transferring just to troll. I have a friend working hard to try and get a plot there. Furthermore these people are not transferring in right away but doing it during prime time when most houses are in fact coming off timers to reset them. Interestingly enough those doing it say they can and that SE won't do anything about it. These characters are sadistic and are going to spoil transfers for the good guys. There needs to be a 30 day cooldown on transfers so anyone transferring can't do it again right away let alone transfer out right after to the plot they transferred from.

    There is no reason why transfers should be unlimited with only a 5 minute cooldown.
    Again, it is Balmung's problem and it doesn't mean other servers are having the same issue.
    Balmung has a lot of unique problems and I really don't see any justification a new rule need to apply to every other servers just because of Balmung
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  7. #17
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Realistically relocation should not be a thing at all.

    Seriously, why are people who already have a house rewarded with the ability to jump to the head of the line on a new plot?

    EDIT: Relocation could be an option AFTER the relocator stands there clicking with everyone else.
    The only real benefit to relocate would be to change how the interior/stairs look. The best way to fight this is let us change them like we can the light fixtures. Otherwise it's not really worth the hassle/gil to do so.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alestorm View Post
    The only real benefit to relocate would be to change how the interior/stairs look. The best way to fight this is let us change them like we can the light fixtures. Otherwise it's not really worth the hassle/gil to do so.
    A lot of people spend their time outside their house so they may want to relocate to have a location they like more.

    And as far as I'm aware people can relocate to a larger plot.
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  9. #19
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Again, it is Balmung's problem and it doesn't mean other servers are having the same issue.
    Balmung has a lot of unique problems and I really don't see any justification a new rule need to apply to every other servers just because of Balmung
    I can't personally speak for other servers and neither can you. Perhaps people on discord can speak to that with respect to how widespread the problem is. According to my friend who belongs to that discord this is NOT a problem unique to Balmung. The fact that this can happen and is happening is more than enough justification to fix it.

    Changes are in fact coming as mentioned in the Endwalker digital event and I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 09-09-2021 at 10:37 AM.

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