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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Is it our responsibility or should the testers have figured this out?

    Frankly... Why would ANY content come out in which the testers have not thrown all BLMs at it to see what happens... I mean it has only been done with EVERY OTHER CONTENT in the game....
    I can see if it was some new technique... but it's the same damn story...
    BLM burn is not new.... if a BLM burn catches the devs by surprise... then I guess all I can do is SMH
    Well this is why most MMO's have test servers so that testers find these little exploits prior to release.

    But thats coming in 2.0 along with everything else :P

    I do agree though the blm burn should have been the first thing on their minds. closely follow with arc zerg.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 05-01-2012 at 04:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Is it our responsibility or should the testers have figured this out?

    Frankly... Why would ANY content come out in which the testers have not thrown all BLMs at it to see what happens... I mean it has only been done with EVERY OTHER CONTENT in the game....
    I can see if it was some new technique... but it's the same damn story...
    BLM burn is not new.... if a BLM burn catches the devs by surprise... then I guess all I can do is SMH
    The problem is that there is supposed to be a mechanic in place to prevent this. Why they didn't test it though is beyond me. Ifrit has a mechanic where his 2 hour activates automatically if his hp goes below a certain point. I had the misfortune of running into this when I was doing the 30s ifrit and my howling fist combo left him with about 3% hp. He popped his spikes then immediately jumped and killed me with 9999 damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    The problem is that there is supposed to be a mechanic in place to prevent this. Why they didn't test it though is beyond me. Ifrit has a mechanic where his 2 hour activates automatically if his hp goes below a certain point. I had the misfortune of running into this when I was doing the 30s ifrit and my howling fist combo left him with about 3% hp. He popped his spikes then immediately jumped and killed me with 9999 damage.
    lol is 30 ifrit really a good example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    lol is 30 ifrit really a good example?
    The mechanic is the same regardless of the difficulty. It is there to basically one shot you if you decide to skip the 2 hour.

    What baffles me is why they are patching this over patching other things. This will be the second patch that they are fixing something they consider an exploit in a primal fight. What about misers mistress? Why aren't they patching that so it can't be killed before it moves? I am pretty sure the developers didn't intend for people to output so much dps that it was possible for that to happen.
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    Last edited by Req; 05-01-2012 at 06:12 AM.

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    after rock gone the hell come true.. if you never fight plz don't say like you known... but blm zarg is good way to do but even you known how to do make it possible it still hard.. need team work good equip and good plan.. so it still can't say cheat for me
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    Agreed, the combo system is what keeps this fight from being melee friendly. The position lag makes it incredibly difficult to do combos on Garuda (her random pathing doesnt help either). For example, when she paths back from doing a jump, and on the way does plumage, I've attempted to start a combo from her front and on my screen its her front, but the game says its her rear. This is because on the game servers shes already pathed all the way back to the tank. An option is to stand where the tank is and start the frontal combo there, but you have no idea if shes coming in at a funky angle or not so you can still mess up the combo. I've been getting better at doing combos on garuda, but its insane how much harder its to do combos as a melee compared to BLM/BRD.

    I like the suggestion of having combos be possible even if using the wrong direction (but have bonus damage).
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    Sigh, now Garuda will just become even harder. Even disregarding the BLM burn, most parties push their dps to the point where you skip phase 2.
    It's just a giant pain. It's like Ifrit only worse, server latency and getting one-shot by a stupid move you are not able to dodge in time. @.@"
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    The true reason the game testers did not find this fatal flaw however is due to the fundamental limitation of the JP Button

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/JP_Button




    Its sad that manaburn parties may be eradicated, I hope instead there would be place to adjust the content so other jobs/classes/combinations can perform well too. An immersive enjoyable world is through having the option to form unusual parties and having a bit of fun along the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    The true reason the game testers did not find this fatal flaw however is due to the fundamental limitation of the JP Button

    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/JP_Button




    Its sad that manaburn parties may be eradicated, I hope instead there would be place to adjust the content so other jobs/classes/combinations can perform well too. An immersive enjoyable world is through having the option to form unusual parties and having a bit of fun along the way.

    Awww man... that picture in that wiki brings back memories. I miss Corvus and Heavyswordsman GG Midgardsormr!
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    Am I missing something here?

    He said they stacked up on Materia Gear, they all in AF????
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