I'd like to suggest speeding up REPEAT, Legacy Relics, and also adding BLU Relics

[DeaconMoore]

But I demand to have my weapon on every job make moogle noises... >.>

Wait, your weapons aren't made from moogles?

[Fellgon]

But I demand to have my weapon on every job make moogle noises... >.>

moogles weapons are the true endgame!

[kiagenwa]

I casually spent 2 weeks after the quest became available as I was stuck in ARR MSQ just for a lance relic.
The difficulty had been much reduced and with level cap now at lv80 you can just breeze through any ARR dungeon.

IMO. The only grinding was light hunting. Even so, I only spent 4 days for it. Mahatma was even faster (one crystal tower run per mahatma).
Lowering difficulty even further would just reduce its charm.

[Shadotterdan]

the 12 Zodiac signs were represented by the Atma crystals and the Mahatma crystals, not by the weapons themselves.

Well yeah, but they were inspired by the weapons wielded by the 12 warriors of the zodiac braves right?

[Mikey_R]

Well yeah, but they were inspired by the weapons wielded by the 12 warriors of the zodiac braves right?

Unless I am missing something, the quest text never explicitely state how many heros there were. Jalzahn also states that the heros were called many other names but called the Zodiac Braves in Radz-at-Han.

The most distinguishing thing about them was the fact their 'weapons shone with the radiance of a thousand stars'. With the signs of the Zodiac being based on star formation, that is the likely link between heros and calling them the Zodiac braves.

[TaleraRistain]

The books were already adjusted before. If you could do all the books at once that would be way too quick for them. They used to be difficult as hell to get done too when they first came out with everyone camping the same things, no one wanting to wait for others to get to a fate because it'd be gone within seconds, or with certain fates having excessively long times to wait for them (Like one of them in southern thanalan that's part of a chain)

They're from ARR, so what's wrong with that step being faster? I know they've adjusted them. I did this when it was current. They already improved all the other steps so they're almost effortless. Getting the Atmas is nothing now. The wait on the rare FATEs is still a thing, though there are some they've adjusted so they aren't as rare. The last bit that's annoying is doing a FATE to clear for one FATE you need in X book and then find out that you need that FATE now in the next book. Having them all active means they could be ticked off as someone is just doing the FATEs in the given zone which really doesn't do anything but save some time and frustration and would bring all the steps in line with each other in current effort required instead of having that one step be a bottleneck.

I finished my alt's ARR relic in about a week or so and it only took that long because of the book step. It really wouldn't change anything if someone finished it in a couple of days instead. Relics are intended to become easier over time.

[Shadotterdan]

Unless I am missing something, the quest text never explicitely state how many heros there were. Jalzahn also states that the heros were called many other names but called the Zodiac Braves in Radz-at-Han.

The most distinguishing thing about them was the fact their 'weapons shone with the radiance of a thousand stars'. With the signs of the Zodiac being based on star formation, that is the likely link between heros and calling them the Zodiac braves.

To be fair, I'm kinda assuming they are similar to the Zodiac Braves from Tactics, where it was pretty much stated that each of them held a different zodiac stone, thus leading to the idea that there was 12 of them (let's assume Serpentarius was unknown)

[Terin]

I definitely think the Book step should be streamlined a bit. Even if it means instead of repeating dungeons, you just have to do ALL of them (or perhaps better, run X number of them, but must be done using Duty Finder, so it keeps queues for lower level players short).

But mostly, I'd just like to see REPEAT Relics shortened a bit. Ideally, each Relic would get a little shorter than the last, but even breaking it down like "Relic 1 takes the most work, 2-3 are a bit quicker, 4-7 are substantially quicker, and 8+ outright have certain stages removed" (ie. going from 75 melded materia down to 60, down to 40, and maybe even down to 20 at the very end). Something where you feel like "if I want to be a completionist, it doesn't mean dedicating my whole life to the process".

Again though, I totally get if some people are against this. Just my personal take.

[RitsukoSonoda]

While not really a legacy or old relic weapon yet...

Maybe have the Fates and CE's in Bozjan southern front drop those memories for that really early step of the bozjan relic quest line where you need 15 of 3 different types drop 100% of the time in the Bozjan southern front? That really seems like the most time consuming step of the entire thing for making additional weapons as you either sit in bozjan southern front hoping RNG gives them to you, or you run around on 3 different full size and much larger maps doing 15 fates each on them.

[Shadotterdan]

I definitely think the Book step should be streamlined a bit. Even if it means instead of repeating dungeons, you just have to do ALL of them (or perhaps better, run X number of them, but must be done using Duty Finder, so it keeps queues for lower level players short).

But mostly, I'd just like to see REPEAT Relics shortened a bit. Ideally, each Relic would get a little shorter than the last, but even breaking it down like "Relic 1 takes the most work, 2-3 are a bit quicker, 4-7 are substantially quicker, and 8+ outright have certain stages removed" (ie. going from 75 melded materia down to 60, down to 40, and maybe even down to 20 at the very end). Something where you feel like "if I want to be a completionist, it doesn't mean dedicating my whole life to the process".

Again though, I totally get if some people are against this. Just my personal take.

While the question of if something similar will be backported to prior relics, the bojzan relics are nice in that the most time consuming parts of the process only need to be done once, and the items can be farmed up on any job and you can even gather extras for when you do it on other jobs. That and making some things drop things for more than one step means that I have been keeping some relics parked on the quests while I farm up before Endwalker drops