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    Permanent Invincibility in Feast? (Any Healer)

    So... I am a new player who is fairly experienced in overall PVP gaming and so forth. I have tried a few feast matches and have noticed that healers (namely WHM) are basically permanently unkillable/invincible. I never imagined that healers would have unlimited MP/be able to heal forever and never run out of resources.
    It's not an exaggeration, you can't even get healers down to 35-50% HP if you are full throttle DPSing and layer CC on them.
    I've given it a good go for the month but with healer invincibility, the not being able to communicate in Feast/PVP overall and feeling babysat by Square Enix the whole time I wouldn't be renewing. Nobody serious about PVP would. I'm just quite surprised about it, given that Square Enix has so many reasons to jump on this bandwagon with the incredibly large influx of new subscribers. It does not feel rewarding when you nail your rotation and the healer heals to full 150 million times WHILE also healing their entire team forever without an MP penalty. Pretty much any other decent game makes healers use a resource to heal, instead of just giving them permanent invincibility.
    I'm not asking for any sort of advice on "how to kill healers", etc. There is no way to communicate in Ranked Feast in a complex way, at least not from a solo que perspective. This is a statement from someone who participated in FF14 for a month and who won't be renewing based on this.
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    Tachion Asylla
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    So... I am a new player who is fairly experienced in overall Verminion PVP gaming and so forth. I have tried a few ranked matches and have noticed that healers (namely Wind-up Kojin) are basically permanently unkillable/invincible. I never imagined that turtles would have unlimited gauge/be able to heal forever and never run out of resources.
    It's not an exaggeration, you can't even get Kojins down to 35-50% HP if you are full throttle DPSing and layer Special Actions on them.
    I've given it a good go for the month but with Wind-up Kojin invincibility, the not being able to communicate in Verminion PVP and feeling babysat by Square Enix the whole time I wouldn't be renewing. Nobody serious about Verminion PVP would. I'm just quite surprised about it, given that Square Enix has so many reasons to jump on this bandwagon with the incredibly large influx of new subscribers. It does not feel rewarding when you nail your actions and the Kojins heal to full 150 million times WHILE also healing their entire team forever without a penalty. Pretty much any other decent game makes Wind-up Kojins use a resource to heal, instead of just giving them permanent invincibility.
    I'm not asking for any sort of advice on "how to kill Wind-up Kojins", etc. There is no way to communicate in Ranked Verminion in a complex way, at least not from a solo que perspective. This is a statement from someone who participated in FF14 for a month and who won't be renewing based on this.
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Healers die all of the time in ranked feast.

    Targeting and Focus communication is also easy.
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    If healers are raining on your parade that hard, I'd recommend trying out a class that's able to pick on them (not that we know what you're playing).
    Maybe try Warrior or any class with a "get over here" move.
    Wait...
    Quote Originally Posted by Frossie View Post
    I'm not asking for any sort of advice on "how to kill healers", etc.
    So, what is this thread about then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frossie View Post
    snip.
    So a troll thread?
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    Last edited by MilkieTea; 09-07-2021 at 01:09 PM.
    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Nope, Tachion. I don't care what achievements any of you have though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    So a troll thread?
    Yo, uhh... I'd recommend editing some of their language out of your post.
    People have gotten banned for throwing around insults like they did, and you could get smacked with that too because by quoting it, it is "in" your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Yo, uhh... I'd recommend editing some of their language out of your post.
    People have gotten banned for throwing around insults like they did, and you could get smacked with that too because by quoting it, it is "in" your post.
    Oh snap, yeah you're right. Edited. Thanks for reminding me!
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Beywolf Bjornson
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    From my experience so far this is far from the thruth. Healer is very stressful job in pvp and 1 wrong gcd or good cc chain results in either the healer die or one of his teammates. Healers are not easy to kill if you just dps and let their ally to peel for them or leave the healer cast freely, but as i said 1 good cc chain is enought to kill either the healer or one of his allies.
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