Blacklist Feature Request

[GeminiReed]

In which it would also be used to blacklist all the players who're starting doing PvP because they're not skilled enough. ...

If Blacklisting players would stop them from being matched with you in DF then this may results in a longer queue time from either your end or theirs, ...

... So in the end there is no reason to stop someone from being matched with you in DF. It can only cause harassment ( Mass/Encouraged Blacklisting on a player )

Mass blacklisting seems to be mostly a JP problem. Anybody who tries it in NA tends to find out they're the ones that can't get a queue pop.

There are far more serious concerns (stalking) than avoiding bruising somebody's fragile ego. Gods forbid anything tragic happens but the way Square has implemented their system is not going to impress many judges.

[EmpyreanHelios]

If I'm not wrong, blacklisted players can't join your PF tho.

I think this is still true. The only saving grace of the current blacklist system.

As I have said earlier, unless a player is a snowflake who literally blacklist anyone they disagreed with, I don't see how a player can have more than 50 other players in their blacklist without counting the bots.

I feel like you haven't been playing this game for very long, or that you're lucky for not running into the types of people that we blacklist. You know, the ones who yell at new people for getting hit by AOEs and kick up a fuss about wipes on old content. Heck, I had a tank refuse to pull in one of the new raids because we wiped a few times on the release day and then we had to kick him.

And then to get the same people when we queue up for something else makes us feel like the blacklist is useless.

[LianaThorne]

Blacklist/Friends List in general needs an overhaul, starting with being able to unfriend someone and also having it unfriend you on their end. I'm not even gonna start with how the system does nothing to protect those who have been victims of stalking or harassment by people (For example, an ex of mine had a girl he met on FF randomly show up in his town and send a photo of herself there to him) because Square seems to think that the stalkers feelings about being unfriended are important too.

Blacklisting should entirely remove the person's character from your screen and they shouldn't be able to see you.

[SherlottaEryut]

Blacklisting should entirely remove the person's character from your screen and they shouldn't be able to see you.

Oooh! I've thought about this before... I once played an MMORPG where once you set someone on the ignore list, their character disappears and you can no longer see nor interact with them.. I cant remember which game it was though.

[Breakbeat]

Life works like this. There's good, and then there's bad. Together, they equal what we call "life experience". Yes, I am paraphrasing a cheezy '80s sitcom theme; bonus points if you know which.

We become well-balanced humans by dealing with the good and the bad. The bad teaches us how to handle difficulties in life. The bad is actually an important part of maturing, learning, growing and being human.

What isn't all that good is to 'filter out' anything you don't agree with, anyone who doesn't see 100% eye-to-eye with you, anyone who might express a bit of frustration or anger or other normal human emotions. This is called putting yourself in an 'echo chamber' and results in people having a skewed and distorted view of how things should be.

Living in an echo-chamber, where only your pre-determined values and behaviors are reflected back to you, actually reduces your capacity to deal with humankind at large. It's not healthy, especially not for developing humans. For older folk, it might be too late, but for a twenty-year-old, it can be hugely detrimental.

People that have one or two folks on an ignore list have come into contact with the occasional off-the-charts reprehensible behavior. That is understandable. If someone on the street attacks you, you'd not want to deal with that person again.

People that have a hundred, two hundred or four hundred (or more) people on a blacklist are filtering out benign behaviors, like a simple complaint, or an attitude they don't like, or (to be honest) negative behaviors that come as a result of their own, personal behaviors. This isn't healthy at all. It snowballs, as you now start to believe that you don't have to even try to understand someone looking at you sideways. Block and move on.

It's not normal, proper or healthy to live like that, nor is it needed at all. I've done ten thousand hours in older MMOs (EQ, Asheron's Call), twenty-five thousand hours in WoW, and three-hundred hours in FFXIV, and have never felt the need to put someone on a block list. Have I had arguments with folks? Yeah, though you could count them on your fingers without going to your toes. I dealt with these arguments, won some, lost some, and moved on.

[DPZ2]

Wow. 200 players to blacklist is too small? I've gotta wonder what I've been doing wrong these past 7 years, since my blacklist currently has <check> um, nobody.

[Imora]

Yeah these won't be more than 50 tbh
Bots are quick to get banned so no point in blacklisting them because by tomorrow the bot who will spam in the chat is going to be another one.
People, who spam things like what? Most are by incidents from what I see.
FCs recruiters aren't that many. Their messages are but just blacklist a couple of them and it will all become quiet.
People who harass you should be reported as well as blacklisting but as FCs recruiters they shouldn't be many.
Which in the end doesn't exceeds 50 players unless something is wrong indeed and that's probably from the player's side, not theirs.



It's not useless. Imagine blacklisting all the good players at PvP from the opposite factions so you don't get matched with them?

That's how ignore list works in wow. They can't see your premade group listing and you won't get partied with them in dungeon finder.

Not sure how it works with pvp because well, pvp sucks. There's also tens of thousands of people who pvp, you can't ignore them all

[Myrany]

I just wish that if you blacklisted someone then every one of thier character account wide was blocked on every one of your characters.

My sister no longer plays this game because of someone constantly rolling a character to harass her again then deleting it when she blocked him. It was a constant never ending battle.

[Rongway]

It would be a lot more helpful to be able to type the person's name into the blacklist so you can blacklist them from anywhere and don't have to hunt them down!

Once upon a time, you could

/blist add Forename Surname

When the servers were preparing for World Visit and everyone became Forename Surname@Worldname, all commands except Tell were modified so that you couldn't type a name manually. Tell would take Forename Surname@Worldname but all other commands would only accept target tags. Ironically but unsurprisingly, as late as last fall, the GM interaction scripts still included incorrectly telling you you could /blist the person with the text command even though this was impossible.

I absolutely think the text commands should be reverted to accept manual name entry. But at the same time, blisting someone is not that difficult. If you don't want to target someone, you can mouseover them, as the blist command still works with target tags:

/blist add <mo>

and it's unusual to need to have to hunt down a blist target. Ostensibly, if you're blisting someone it's because they have actively chatted, emoted, or telled you something annoying or offensive. All those appear in the chat log except motion emotes, and if they're doing motion emotes, they're there for you to target or mouseover.

[EmpyreanHelios]

It’s wonderful to hear that a lot of people in this thread did not need to utilize their blacklist.

But for the people who use it and/or have the need for it, the current system is lacking.