Samurai needs damage buffs

[FlareVyzar]

SAM is definately not the hardest class to optimize. You can adapt pretty easy to given circumstances thx to the 3 core combos "from the side, from behind, 2 buttons" most of the times even without true north. Playing uptime with a timed gaplcoser combo or using Meikyo in smart way will increase your damage too.
The most classes are way harder to optimize, because you don´t have the possibilities to adapt with your rotation, you need a bunch of proccs or have to care about short buffs / DoT´s. A lot of ppl just don´t think a step further and play 123, 145, 16, Midare permanently down while not using third eye.
SAM is easy mode in the endgame and even unoptimized, you´re able perform the same damage as other well optimized classes.

I mean i am not going to argue for further details into that statement. Most Casual players, who don't even bother to aim to the highest end just know it like that, without any credibility of performing on high level at all.

My statement about it being the hardest class to optimize comes from top DPS players who are SMN/BLM mains switched (which are the two overestimated difficulty classes btw and in reality at high end are clearly not) (not going to mention names, you are free to personally go ask anyone in the balance who did that. If you really think it is all 123 145 16. You clearly don't have an idea on how highest end speeds or optimization is.
Samurai is the easiest class to get into that i can agree, but optimize?

In melees? I got a 99 on MNK on my 2nd try of never playing before, just learned the opener that is all. A 99 on NIN on my 4th try on playing it from scratch. But SAM? Its my main and i still struggle to get things as easily as other classes. I don't even optimize MNK/NIN and its this easy to just perform at 90 +, yet for Samurai, i mess up even once and my damage fluctuates greatly. Ranging from 2500 potency to 20k Potency on a simple fight like E11s.

(Before, someone pulls a comment that i should BiS all classes just to prove them a point. No i am not going to waste my time to do that. You are free to ask players who did it, as i stated above. Some 5.4 Players are still grinding their stuff on all classes right now)
I am not going to continue bother writing on forums replying all the time. Just happened to be checking stuff up.

But if you want information, feel free to ask any of the Balance players who are still optimizing or have optimized for a long time. The logs are there. The resources are there. There are videos on YT out there. XivAnalysis is there. You are free to check, and come with a valid statement when you are able to perform on an high end optimized environment. Most players commenting on this thread haven't even stepped to the level , they seem to comment on.

[ssunny2008]

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Well i´ve actually claimed that the most just play 123 in a strict rotation, not me. I know how to play SAM and how to adapt to certain mechanics, because SAM has the possibilities to do that without combo breaks, burst window delays or whatever in the most cases.

Since you seem to care a lot about ff.logs, it doesn´t says all about optimization. First of all ff.logs takes parses from over 2 weeks and not of all time. Which means you can have a 99 because only "bad players" logged within the same time-window but your number decreases withing the following days. Just click on your own logs and you´ll see, that your 98 / 99 are gone. It´s only the momentum.

And if we talk about gameplay optimization, even someone with a 80% parse or maybe even 60% might play perfect. Maybe it just lacks of gear, bufffood or a good group? Lined up buffs do a lot as much as special party compositions. MNK´s Brotherhood is amazing with fast classes, MCH ftw! But with 2,5s SMN´s? Astro might be unlucky with cards? Or what´s with E11s Blue uptime or not? Not everyone is running for logs anyway.
A part of optimization is even to react to given circumstances and not like "Hüüüüh someone died, let´s go wipe, my RDPS!" or whatever.
It could even be a thing, that one SAM has a 95 log because the crit on Midare was not with him meanwhile the other has a critical-direct hit on it every time and the boss dies in a burst window.

Parses are not everything. Lately i had a 94 in levi unreal with my GNB. It´s not even my MT or well equipped. Imagine i would´ve used bufffood and potions, BIS gear, maybe... but who cares? My better half had a 98 in E12s, but had to use LB3. Imagine it´s her first MMORPG, she started with SHB as full-noob, raided the first time E5-8s, has major issues to remember mechanics and runs here and there from the platform. But hey, she learns and adapt.
Just because ppl don´t farm logs and don´t even do fights 100 times to optimize them perfectly, don´t mean that they´ve no clue or are bad players. May the E-Pen be with you.

[FlareVyzar]

Abt this

I do not really want to keep arguing in this thread but i feel like, with the influx of new players. Looking around ffxiv forums and seeing things like that is what will make them mis-informed and then perform bad on raids.

Fflogs what shows on your best hist. Is compared to all time during that patch cycle. Not the parses only page. The only two weeks part is only shown in the uploaded log on the "Damage Done" page. We NEVER look at those.

We never look at parses when someone is not BiS. No one will care about it if you are not BiS yet. Just because someone got a 99 does NOT mean we got it while bad players uploaded logs only, because it is compared to all time and it changes every day at 00:00 UTC. That is called historical. If someone has a 99, regardless if someone continues to optimize and gets a better parse. The person still performed well. Because if it is an early 99, it means they cleared early, which has a lot more value than those grinding for 99 for months. Sfia is a world prog player, his 99 is an 81 by today's measure. Does that mean that Sfia is bad? NO it does not.

About fast GCD slow GCD? What the f is that logic even? That is like saying, everyone should build more speed to get more damage under raid buffs?????? Every single person out there would build speed if that was the case.

We fit our hardest hitting skills under raid buffs. Not as many as possible. To boost the raid damage.

You are speaking about not farming logs but you are talking about optimization??? Optimization is done through farming multiple logs and looking at what works best around the team. e.g Ninja delays Trick attack to catch raid buffs after DD on E12s

About crit RNG. Samurai is notorious for having to rely on Crit Rng to get the highest possible log. This is true up to a certain extent. But crit rng mostly varies on a +10 scale. At worst you could have a 99 log become a 90 at a non existent crit to a high end crit. At average you will be getting high logs regardless of crit rng because that is how statistics work. You don't jump from grey to 99 with crit rng.

Parses do not matter as much yes. But when we are talking optimization. We are talking improvement. And this is what FFlogs is used for. And that is the principal reason why i stop parsing after the first two month of a raid tier since i clear week 1 / 2 of the raid tier coming out. I dont grind 400 + kills like those who are still doing.
But like, how are you ever going to improve in the game without parsing or someone parse a run for you?

If someone wants to attempt week 1 prog. They need to have high consistency on both mechs and damage. Because week 1 clear is the hardest dps check in this game. It is a process of improvement. I did not jump to being a week 1/2 player. I was grey, i parsed to improve. Using the logic that parsing means nothing just leads to people never improving.
Competing on FFlogs for personal ranking is what is unecessary.

I don't actively parse anymore, i help players clear everyday since i came back 2 weeks ago. I am getting 98 on NIN and SAM on E12s while helping players clear?? So by your logic i should have been a mediocre player because i am not actually parsing? I don't think if this is the right place to even post my videos on it. It is on my YT, you can go check those out. Back up your words when you want to make a statement.

You said you had a 98 on E12s but had to LB? Well, LB does not break your parses from 98 to green. You would at most be a 95 instead. But yours shows a 28 ? and your gear is i530? I helped a group clear today itself and i had to LB3, my NIN is an 86 with LB + damage downs on e10s. By your logic i should have been green too ? or grey?
You also said you got 94 on Levi Unreal, but the logs are not even there??????

Telling things like SMN is bad for MNK because it has 2.5s gcd is just dumb because it is not the GCD speed that matters. It is the rotation that bursts every 90 seconds.