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    How about a "Fusion Sword" Job?

    I posted this in another thread originally to... not much fanfare, but I think the idea has potential! More specifically, what I'm suggesting is a job based around Cloud's weapon(s) and fighting style in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children!



    For those unfamiliar, AC Cloud fights with 6 swords of various shapes and sizes that can be combined into the aptly named Fusion Sword, in that form not too dissimilar to the Buster Sword. If I remember correctly (it's been a while), the fully assembled Fusion Sword only really makes an appearance towards the end of the film, which was a neat detail, and similarly I'm thinking assembling your weapon is something you would work towards as you went through your rotation?



    I debated back and forth whether this idea would work best as a Tank or DPS but ultimately decided Tanks have enough of a monopoly on cool weapons already, damnit! it feels less defensive and more of an offensive sort of job? I don't really have the know-how to come up with full skilltrees or etc. but mostly I was thinking maybe you had different paths (combos) you went through to slap more components on, with the intermediary stages having different benefits. One example I used originally was if, at one such stage your weapon had a serrated edge, it could apply DOT (Bleed)? This... sounds a lot like a reskin of Samurai, doesn't it? W-well, I'm sure the devs could come up with a way to make it distinct (besides aesthetically)!

    I don't really have a name for it, I briefly considered calling it "Sword Saint", a recurring job in (mostly spin-offs of) the series, and I think it could work as kind of a unorthodox take on the idea since... can't get more skilled than simultaneously fighting with 6 swords (or weapons in general, in which case you could toss some Dissidia Firion into the mix, too!), right? but ultimately I'm not too hung up about it...

    Could this work as another much-needed Scouting Job? A third Striking? What do you all think? Reckon it's novel enough that it wouldn't step on too many toes?
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    How do you think the fusion mechaic could be realized in FF14?
    When I try and think about that I just hit dead ends.
    Can you share what you're envisioning?

    Conceptually, yeah that's a neat idea, but I'm struggling to see what the execution might be like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    How do you think the fusion mechaic could be realized in FF14?
    When I try and think about that I just hit dead ends.
    Can you share what you're envisioning?

    Conceptually, yeah that's a neat idea, but I'm struggling to see what the execution might be like.
    Unfortunately, concept's about all I've got lol

    But if I were to try and figure something out it'd be like... entering combat you've got just your "base" weapon out, could be a sword, could be a spear or what have you, as long as stuff can slot onto it. Once you've reached a certain point in your rotation you add one of several components onto it, at which point you get to choose what kind of effect you'd like (e.g. the aforementioned Bleed, but could be buffing yourself up or other status effects like Slow, Stun, etc.).

    Regardless of your choice you would eventually go through all of the options to fully assemble your weapon, at which point it either ticks down or (my personal preference) you unlock several unique skills, and maybe a combo that returns it to its starting form at its conclusion? Basically SAM's Setsugekka but it works like DRG's Blood/Life of the Dragon, where it's not immediately consumed but instead gives you access to unique skills while in that state?

    I'm not too sure though
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    Judge Magister as a Job. Just copy Dissida Gabranth. Starts out as a twinblade then once your gauge is full enter EX mode and dual wield, similar to DRG LoD gauge but you can actually prevent it from dropping. Also, plays like SAM's sens, where you do your rotations but instead, build Quickenings then use it for various high potency spells, i.e. Pyroclasm, Maelstorm's Bolt, etc. Boom you got yourself a new job.

    Originally I was thinking this could be the new maiming job back in SB but since reaper filled that role, making it a tank could push more people to play tank. Especially if it feels like a dps, similar to how GNB, plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Judge Magister as a Job. Just copy Dissida Gabranth. Starts out as a twinblade then once your gauge is full enter EX mode and dual wield, similar to DRG LoD gauge but you can actually prevent it from dropping. Also, plays like SAM's sens, where you do your rotations but instead, build Quickenings then use it for various high potency spells, i.e. Pyroclasm, Maelstorm's Bolt, etc. Boom you got yourself a new job.

    Originally I was thinking this could be the new maiming job back in SB but since reaper filled that role, making it a tank could push more people to play tank. Especially if it feels like a dps, similar to how GNB, plays.
    I was kind of expecting Judge to be the new Maiming job, with the Save the Queen storyline serving as its "teaser"... though admittedly we never got to see Gabranth in action, so I get the feeling they're saving that (and probably the Job itself) for later down the line. And, yeah, I could see it working as a Tank also, polearms aren't something they've got atm (unless you consider WAR weapons polearms)
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    Seems interesting.... though having 6 weapons would probably be a bit much to have sheathed xp. If I were make a simple concept I'd take a note from kh2 Master form and bbs wingblade.

    Instead of 6 blades you have 3 blades, one held by the person, one they use psychokinisis to control it (like sora) , the last one stays holstered but would be easily used psychonetocally like the other blade. They have 2 gauges, one that is just for building up till form shift (BM gauge for the example) the other used similar to drk blood gauge (let's call it the BD gauge for the example). Their mp drains like hw drk, has a skill that can use the BD gauge to restore some mp like sb Delirium.

    Build up the BM gauge to activate blade master form

    Get 3 more aetherial blades for 6 in total. Cool shit ensues
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    Imagine the nightmare it's going to be to add ONE weapon.

    Instead of modelling a sword, they will have to model 6 and all of them will need to fit together.
    The horror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Imagine the nightmare it's going to be to add ONE weapon.

    Instead of modelling a sword, they will have to model 6 and all of them will need to fit together.
    The horror.
    Well, if GNB and DNC are any indication they wouldn't have to design that many of them. I get where you're coming from though yeah, it would be a nightmare lol
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    I mean, Mch has its gun, that weird omnitool gun thing and now a shotgun, so... devs must of figured something out for multi weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    I mean, Mch has its gun, that weird omnitool gun thing and now a shotgun, so... devs must of figured something out for multi weapons.
    Those are the same regardless of what main weapon (the gun) you use.
    They have one and only one appearance.
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