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    SamsaraTrickstar's Avatar
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    Samsara Trickster
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    This is ok.psrt of the world.
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    so i know its not a new topic and all but it need to be talk of much more.
    the all the time incising amount of modern looking glams killing any immersion in the game. now yes there was modern looking gear/glam in the past as ell, but all of it got a fantasy touch. but in 5.x we got just normal modern looking glams that got no fantasy element to them.
    now there 2 ways to "fix this problem"
    1. make it so people can turn off glams from other players.
    2. add more npc's to the world that wear this glams/gear.
    what you think of this, you see it as a problem or don't care. how you will fix it , take them out is not a good fix as there people that do like them.
    A lot of the modern-looking clothing is clothing that is supposed to exist in Eorzea and that you can find NPCs wearing.
    Fantasy covers a lot of things, not only the typical pseudo-medieval worlds, but also many other types of worlds. So the modern-looking gear is no less "fantasy" than the chainmails.
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    A lot of the modern-looking clothing is clothing that is supposed to exist in Eorzea and that you can find NPCs wearing.
    Fantasy covers a lot of things, not only the typical pseudo-medieval worlds, but also many other types of worlds. So the modern-looking gear is no less "fantasy" than the chainmails.
    Honestly a lot of the clothes they wear look straight up sci-fi.
    Look at Alphinaud in Stormblood, he even has a tie.
    A lot of other characters and Jobs look like they're wearing sci-fi clothes too and are clearly taking inspiration from irl, then you've got stuff like Gaia who's basically straight up gothic lolita.

    I don't even think that the more '' normal '' clothes in the game are what you typically see and there's only a handful of them.
    Even stuff like butlers and maids already exist in the game too, considering that people are already fighting unarmored canonically etc if the WoL chooses to wear a maid or butler outfit then why would that even be a problem?
    If people could there would be those who would.

    People back in the day did bling their armor out in ways that technically made it '' less practical '' and did wear it in combat still, because people have always loved to show off.
    And considering the fetishization of the male body back then if people could run into combat naked they probably would lol..
    I mean people do it irl still too with fancy cars, watches or if they've got a nice body etc people love to be admired and brag.
    If the WoL can basically wear whatever they want and still be effective then it's not that hard to believe that you'd see what you see.

    Like would stuff like heels be immersion breaking in a game like Mordhau ( regardless of the other silly stuff in that game ).
    Sure.
    But it's not immersion breaking in FFXIV because it's clearly established that it's fine and works.
    It's not like characters are shown being held back by it and still for some reason choosing to wear it, it's not treated as strange or ineffective at all.
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    My man how i agree with you.
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    Eristede Kell
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    the immersion problem
    This isn't an actual problem.

    /thread
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    Rasler-heios Nabradia
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    I understand the opinion posted. However, I don't agree with a turn-off system. That's defeating the purpose of the glamour system. There are players out there who wants to be seen in a gear that they prefer to be seen. In my case I mix gears depending on stats, the usual result doesn't look good. So I prefer to be seen in a specific set of gear. I do go for decent sets and I would not go naked or wearing just a subligar or wearing the scholastic uniform in let say the Heroes' Gauntlet for example. The thing is if you exclude only a specific range of gears it would alienate some players. It may resolve your immersion problems but it will definitely create a new one to other players who want to be seen in a specific set.
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    J'uzo Okita
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    All the outfits that can be shared on all classes are used for that imo : you don't waste inventory space if you stop playing a specific role, you can switch easly and the list goes on. It's not only having a good look it's also very practical to use.
    Compare that to AF gear: switch your job and the glam is ruined (And then ppl tell you that AF gear shouldn't be shared because of immersion/lore while a anime schoolgirl is tanking at the distance). At the very least everything else is shared on the same role, but it will never be as flexible as all the glams that can be used on all jobs.
    And most of the outfits that don't have any restrictions are modern or "silly looking" clothing.

    Things will be immersion breaking in game yes but if the developpers choose to make the immersion breaking things better than the rest, it will just get worse for thoose who like a little bit of immersion (like i said before more things closer to the trailers).
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    Last edited by Juzjuzz; 09-05-2021 at 02:23 PM.

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    Alaray's Avatar
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Balmung
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    game has a combat simulation tower, television screens, paved roads and bug-bot 6000

    sunglasses aren't the weirdest thing.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    My wife and I actually love seeing wild/zany glamours... like full on "Stop cooking dinner and come look at this! This Roe in the 2b legs/Yotsu hair is MAGNIFICENT"
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Players will always do immersion breaking things whether that's their glams, their emote use, or what they choose to say. You can't escape it. Welcome to sharing a space with other people. If you can't handle it then I suggest you stick to single player games.
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