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    Penthea's Avatar
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    "I want to be able to turn off outfits that aren't to my taste" doesn't exactly scream tolerance.

    I see outfits I dislike all the time and I have never once felt like I needed to erase someone's outfit from my vision. I just accept that different people are going to glam differently so I shouldn't expect to like every outfit that I see.

    Anyway SE are very unlikely to permit players to turn off glams given that having glams displayed is free advertising for store outfits. They're not going to spend time and money to reduce the pool of players that can have store items advertised to them. They literally make money from people being able to see everyone's glams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    "I want to be able to turn off outfits that aren't to my taste" doesn't exactly scream tolerance.

    I see outfits I dislike all the time and I have never once felt like I needed to erase someone's outfit from my vision. I just accept that different people are going to glam differently so I shouldn't expect to like every outfit that I see.

    Anyway SE are very unlikely to permit players to turn off glams given that having glams displayed is free advertising for store outfits. They're not going to spend time and money to reduce the pool of players that can have store items advertised to them. They literally make money from people being able to see everyone's glams.
    Just tell those ppl to lookup pictures of ppl that other ppl took on their phone in a walmart and they'll be thankful stuff like that isn't possible in this game and never complain about other ppls glamours again... >.>
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    People are like this in real life too. How many times you hear something like "I don't like that person because of that hijab/bikini/piercing/tattoo/business suit".

    It's OK to not like what someone is wearing. It becomes problematic when you want to control someones freedom of expression. If someone wants to go to raid the praetorium in a rabbit costume, I just assume they are some mad anarchist like the FF version of the Joker or the Penguin. I if am somehow offended by an outfit, I simply wouldn't interact with that person.

    Also, the entire FF series has always had a mix of fantasy and modern, with huge technological city scapes and small rustic villages. There is no reason you wouldn't see someone wearing ultra modern or ultra traditional clothing.
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    Since it's not a pool, I don't have immersion problem though, and I'm a good swimmer anyway...


    Yes? What? I exit? Okay

    EDIT :
    More seriously, there's something weird to see all these NPCs with so limited clothings but it would be far too costly to change it. In an ideal world, NPCs would change depending of the time, the weather, they would changes clothes etc. A time will come when MMORPG will have this kind of possibility (sort of Metaverse) but it needs to be planed from the beginning.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 09-14-2021 at 04:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Since it's not a pool, I don't have immersion problem though, and I'm a good swimmer anyway...


    Yes? What? I exit? Okay

    EDIT :
    More seriously, there's something weird to see all these NPCs with so limited clothings but it would be far too costly to change it. In an ideal world, NPCs would change depending of the time, the weather, they would changes clothes etc. A time will come when MMORPG will have this kind of possibility (sort of Metaverse) but it needs to be planed from the beginning.
    Funny enough, Rowena changes clothes a lot!
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    All rules have their exceptions

    And she's probably the richest among all people in the whole FFXIV world XD

    Even Godbert Manderville is almost naked.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 09-15-2021 at 03:11 AM.

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    Z'arese Tjinou
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    Fashion in this game is making SE money. I think the vast amount of glamours available to players is also boosting server population. Role play is on the increase due to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    This is a game with mech suits and flying robots, and your immersion is broken because someone is able to wear a jacket?

    Get over it. Glamour is a form of expression, you don't get to turn that off, everyone would look like they're wearing clown suits without it which is far more immersion breaking anyway imo.
    Ironic that you're telling people to get over it, while you can't get over the fact that someone doesn't see you on your glam if such option is available XD

    How selfish and narcissistic.
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    Glams are glams and the aesthetic of the game, as far as character dress, is concerned is heavily influenced by anime. It's not hard to find anime and manga that combine fantastical elements such as magic in with modern era (Industrial Revolution onward) settings. Heck, the preponderance of anime/manga that have protagonists fighting with gigantic weapons wearing kimono, hakama, modern attire, maid outfits, school uniforms/sailor suits, business suits, bikinis, etc in the same world is huge.

    To be fair, there are an equal, if not greater, amount of anime/manga where the characters wear period-appropriate outfits and armor. However, the point is one shouldn't be surprised that a Japanese game developer will make games heavily influenced by Japanese modern pop/nerd culture aesthetics.

    Speaking of stark differences in attire bearing immersion, don't forget that Japan went through *significant* cultural change in the late 1860s. They went from Samurai and Geisha with early 1600s technology to RAPID Westernization/modernization within the space of a couple decades. It was common to see people in contemporary European attire next to people in traditional dress. That's something that we, in the West, didn't experience so it's not etched in our cultural identity.

    TL/DR: Mish-mashed clothing styles is very common in Japanese pop culture and Japan went through a period where the populace were dressed in both Western and traditional Japanese attire for quite some time. We shouldn't expect a Final Fantasy game to not reflect those influences in ways that Western video games typically don't.
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    I think the last drop of immersion was lost when you saw the Omega intergallactic spaceship pewpewzoom megamissilespam interdimensional primal dragon go brrrrr kaboom pewpewpew brrrrrt......
    after starting a "mmo rpg" in your dirty clothes, being lvl 1, having nothing but your basic weapons fighting tiny rats and ladybugs.
    Went from D&D to StarTrek 0-100.
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    Well if this game didn't have so much to improve on, I wouldn't have to suggest this much, would I...?

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