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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    You don't need to run Coil synced through Party Finder. You could create party finders for running unsynced to just see the story.

    You'll understand what the Binding Coil of Bahamut is, why Bahamut is there and what the dragons are doing there as well when you complete each section and see the related story.

    Alisaie is there as she wants to find the truth about what happened to her grandfather. She initially did not see eye to eye with Alphinaud about the way to do things and parts ways with him (you see those scenes when you are doing the envoy tour around the 3 city states before your first dungeon) but later on in MSQ she becomes part of the Scions.
    Aha, I see! Thanks for that. This is exactly the type of answer I am looking for.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Your questions are answered by finishing Coil. If you want to be spoiled, just read the wiki.
    No thank you.
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    I agree it's better not to spoil it

    If you have any other questions, don't be shy. I'll try to give as spoiler-free answers as I can.
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    So if the Garleans hate primals, why did they summon Bahamut?
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    The Garleans did not summon Bahamut. They brought down the artificial moon Dalamud, which was built by the Allagans to contain Bahamut thousands of years prior. Almost nobody involved had any idea that the moon was a prison for Bahamut and the general intent behind Project Meteor was just to wipe out most of Eorzea by dropping a big rock on it. Although Nael Van Darnus, the Legatus in charge of the revived project Meteor at the time was in fact tempered by Bahamut and trying to bring the moon down out of religious fervor.
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    Op, again, questions are welcome… but you are asking for spoilers- a lot of your questions boil down to “just read the wiki”, or “just play the MSQ, it’ll answer that”.

    All you are really asking us to do is google the wiki and copy paste your answer in, when you should be encouraged to do that yourself.

    Again if you have a question please do, but i would suggest googling first, or playing the MSQ to current patch.

    You are essentially asking “why does Gollum care so much for that ring?” upon first meeting Gollum in The Hobbit, without reading the rest of The Hobbit or even starting The Lord of the Rings.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 11-10-2021 at 09:46 AM.

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    So how is it that Ysayle can turn into Shiva?

    I feel like they explained it in the story but I still don't really understand how. I am now at Ravana storyline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvresse View Post
    So how is it that Ysayle can turn into Shiva?

    I feel like they explained it in the story but I still don't really understand how. I am now at Ravana storyline.
    Primal summoning can be separated into 2 broad strokes: the usual incarnate summon, and then avatar summoning, in which a living host takes on the soul of a primal, transforming them into the primal. It is this second method that Ysayle uses.
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    So is Hraesvelgr omnipotent? Like is he right about Ysayle? Telling her she's created her own version of Shiva and she's not the reincarnation of his love? Because didn't Hydaelyn give her the visions/power? So wouldn't that mean that Hydaelyn is wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvresse View Post
    So is Hraesvelgr omnipotent? Like is he right about Ysayle? Telling her she's created her own version of Shiva and she's not the reincarnation of his love? Because didn't Hydaelyn give her the visions/power? So wouldn't that mean that Hydaelyn is wrong?
    Continue playing the story. You'll need to get to the next zone to find out more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvresse View Post
    So is Hraesvelgr omnipotent? Like is he right about Ysayle? Telling her she's created her own version of Shiva and she's not the reincarnation of his love? Because didn't Hydaelyn give her the visions/power? So wouldn't that mean that Hydaelyn is wrong?
    Ysayle's visions of Shiva come from Hydaelyn's blessing, but that doesn't mean that Ysayle is correct in assuming that she was given the visions because she is Shiva reborn.

    Ysayle has invented her own idea of Shiva based on the visions, then summoned it.

    Also, Hraesvelgr doesn't need to be omnipotent, he just needs to know with certainty that Shiva's soul is within him and therefore cannot be in Ysayle.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 11-28-2021 at 07:57 PM.

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