Crysta expired

[GeminiReed]

I'm sure SE could argue it's not a giftcard though.

ObIANAL (Obligatory I am not a lawyer)

They can make any argument they want but the trick is convincing a judge to see it their way. Most prefer to avoid setting new precedent so if it quacks like a duck, etc.

I wonder how this works for the international market? Whose laws apply? In my country gift cards/certificates/points cannot expire unless the company becomes insolvent. If the company is offering them they are not permitted to take any kind of service charge or to allow them to expire. I have some of those gift Visa cards, gotta be five or six years old and they are still valid. I expect the laws of whatever country SE decides is most legally favourable to inhabit apply so it just goes to show one must always read the fine print, and the House always wins.

The fine print can only go so far though. There are certain things it can't enforce particularly stuff that runs counter to consumer protection laws. Another good example is GDPR.

In the US, gift bank cards (Visa) have different rules than store cards.

Which regional laws apply depend on a lot of factors but if a company has too many violations of local statutes they may face fines or an order cease operations in that region.

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At any rate the discussion has prompted me to check if I had a balance left (I did) so I burned most on a character rename that I've been meaning to get around to doing. While losing almost $15 isn't as bad as losing $90 it would still be pretty irritating. Now I need to figure out what to do with the rest of it.

[Moonlite]

So I had 1000 crysta left from ARR. When we had to go through that weird 3rd party and couldn't use your credit card. This was even pre cash shop. But 1000 wasn't enough for a month sub when they switched back to credit card. So after reading this thread I tried to use it to buy an emote last night since under 1000 crysta. It worked for me. So I am not sure how they decide expired and not expired

[Darthgummibear]

Can anyone explain to me why you would need to buy crysta in the first place since you can just outright buy everything on the store? You have the same payment options either way so I don't see the advantage.

[Moonlite]

Can anyone explain to me why you would need to buy crysta in the first place since you can just outright buy everything on the store? You have the same payment options either way so I don't see the advantage.

So crysta is a leftover system when either the CC companies or SE didn't want to deal with each other. They had this really weird convoluted system through a third party. The crysta was also in weird amounts that did not match subs or the game cards you used to buy crysta that is why I had a few leftover from when SE and CC decided to play nice again. Why anyone would still be buying crysta I have no idea.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So crysta is a leftover system when either the CC companies or SE didn't want to deal with each other. They had this really weird convoluted system through a third party. The crysta was also in weird amounts that did not match subs or the game cards you used to buy crysta that is why I had a few leftover from when SE and CC decided to play nice again. Why anyone would still be buying crysta I have no idea.

Yeah, 1.0s subscription buying was a pain. We had to go through some sketchy site to buy it since they couldn't directly take sub payments.....

Crysta is a remnant of that.

[Moonlite]

Yeah, 1.0s subscription buying was a pain. We had to go through some sketchy site to buy it since they couldn't directly take sub payments.....

Crysta is a remnant of that.

Yeah but your earlier link of expired would have applied to me since it has been well over two years. Curious how they work expired. I think the OP should just try to buy whatever they can and see if it works anyways. SE doesn't have the best designed store it might still work.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yeah but your earlier link of expired would have applied to me since it has been well over two years. Curious how they work expired. I think the OP should just try to buy whatever they can and see if it works anyways. SE doesn't have the best designed store it might still work.

Well, that link is for the EU, the NA site doesn't mention it at all.

So it may be different depending on region, and also when the crysta was purchased

[TalithaSolarien]

So crysta is a leftover system when either the CC companies or SE didn't want to deal with each other. They had this really weird convoluted system through a third party. The crysta was also in weird amounts that did not match subs or the game cards you used to buy crysta that is why I had a few leftover from when SE and CC decided to play nice again. Why anyone would still be buying crysta I have no idea.

Crysta are still required as SE still does not offers neiter a direct account debit option (which is very common in the EU) nor a paypal option. People without credit cards (a lot of people in the EU don't have those) need this payment option.

[Bearded]

Crysta are still required as SE still does not offers neiter a direct account debit option (which is very common in the EU) nor a paypal option. People without credit cards (a lot of people in the EU don't have those) need this payment option.

True many people in the EU do not have credit cards but the vast majority have debit cards that take funds directly from their bank accounts.

[TalithaSolarien]

True many people in the EU do not have credit cards but the vast majority have debit cards that take funds directly from their bank accounts.

Those won't work with the SE (unless something changed in the last few days).