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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysorn View Post
    Well, from what I understand, the male Viera are like silent stalkers, so it makes sense why they would be short, they are, in a way, similar to Bosmer from the Elder Scrolls, whose shorter bodies allows them to be more nimble hunters.

    But yeah, I mean, Miqo'te have at least one very masculine face, I don't know about Viera, I haven't checked them out yet, but Midlander in specific bothers me due to their 13-year-old mustache, are they supposed to be teenagers?
    Viera look even worse. They have no masculine face, all their faces are heavily feminine but…they have facial hair options and it just makes them look like a joke lol. Male viera are supposed to be the same height as females actually, lore wise but they ditched that to appease crowds.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    The world if Midlanders had access to good looking stubble.

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Katja Eruyt
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    I will always be for more customization options, especially more masculine choices because god knows the character creation is severely lacking in that department.

    Only a couple months until Endwalker so I really am hoping for the best.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    people have been imagining it ever since the Shadowbringers trailer first came out 2+ years ago. lol

    "Please look forward to it."
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    pretty sure it was mentioned alongside Viera Hair that its coming
    but i hope people expect it to only be on that one face not all 6 Midlanders have
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    The reason I went Highlander...
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    People would've complained then too.
    Look at how much people complain about Female Au'Ra being small.
    It's the same gender differences only in the reverse which makes sense with the Viera with the female Viera being all dominatrix Amazon women.

    In the end of the day tho I think it's a small minority complaining.
    Female Au'Ra wouldn't have been as popular if they looked more like the Male Au'Ra.
    If you play a bunny boy then something tells me that a masculine dudebro ain't what you're interested in 99% of the time.
    And I don't think that if you play a bunny girl that most people interested in that would've liked it if they were masculine or looked frumpy either.

    I mean y'all can complain all you want but in the end of the day even the devs have acknowledged that what most people want is what we're getting.
    There's a reason why they keep adding more cute and feminine things, and it's because they have the actual numbers and look at them and see what content most people are into.

    Edit: Also I always find it interesting how it's okay to ask for masculine options but if you ask for feminine options the people basically always accuse you of being horny.
    Asking for masculine options is fine I just find the different reactions to be a bit annoying.

    Whenever I do it it literally doesn't matter how much I specify what I mean and don't mean people always act like it's about that.
    Dunno where you’ve been looking, but when people ask for masculine options, it’s always female characters trying to tell us how there’s already options available or how it isn’t a priority or hates on us for not like the overtly feminine things. I’m going to play a male viera but i’m very much interested in masculine things, and i don’t need someone to tell me i’m not. It really doesn’t make sense in the lore no. They’re supposed to be the same height as they’re literally undistinguishable during birth. The only reason they’re shorter is because a vocal twitter crowd was raising up hell trying to have the females be “doms” and fetishizing it. This expansion has been constant female pandering, whether it be the heavily feminine and androgynous hairstyles, or the female glams with no males alternatives(2b outfit for example), not to mention the constant female npc mogstation glams yet when was the last male npc glam we got? Exactly. Females have always been pandered in this game. Hence why people want more masculine options for once. Will it happen? Probably not. The lead dev plays a female lala for crying out loud despite “totally wanting a beast race.”
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Dunno where you’ve been looking, but when people ask for masculine options, it’s always female characters trying to tell us how there’s already options available or how it isn’t a priority or hates on us for not like the overtly feminine things. I’m going to play a male viera but i’m very much interested in masculine things, and i don’t need someone to tell me i’m not. It really doesn’t make sense in the lore no. They’re supposed to be the same height as they’re literally undistinguishable during birth. The only reason they’re shorter is because a vocal twitter crowd was raising up hell trying to have the females be “doms” and fetishizing it. This expansion has been constant female pandering, whether it be the heavily feminine and androgynous hairstyles, or the female glams with no males alternatives(2b outfit for example), not to mention the constant female npc mogstation glams yet when was the last male npc glam we got? Exactly. Females have always been pandered in this game. Hence why people want more masculine options for once. Will it happen? Probably not. The lead dev plays a female lala for crying out loud despite “totally wanting a beast race.”
    Just because someone plays a female character it doesn't mean that they're 1) female 2) a female that likes only feminine things 3) a guy who only likes feminine things 4) anything else in your mind that doesn't jump out and say "I love masculine things". If we're judging by avatars, your cat has a softer look to the face and is currently wearing a ruffled half-dress. What we each deem as "masculine" varies quite a bit.

    Also, male Viera are only about 2.5 inches shorter than the females. Be happy it's not a drastic difference like Au Ra.


    But back to the actual topic, YES BRING ON THE STUBBLE.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Just because someone plays a female character it doesn't mean that they're 1) female 2) a female that likes only feminine things 3) a guy who only likes feminine things 4) anything else in your mind that doesn't jump out and say "I love masculine things". If we're judging by avatars, your cat has a softer look to the face and is currently wearing a ruffled half-dress. What we each deem as "masculine" varies quite a bit.

    Also, male Viera are only about 2.5 inches shorter than the females. Be happy it's not a drastic difference like Au Ra.


    But back to the actual topic, YES BRING ON THE STUBBLE.
    I was saying it’s a trend i always see. It’s a bit too much of a coincidence 90% of the people who say the things i mentioned play a female character. I don’t consider my own character masculine. There’s very few options for it in the game. Thank you for bringing attention to my glam though. Just highlights my point even more, look at the healing gear. Constant feminine styled gear. Hardly any masculine versions. The fact it’s taken this long for the stubble to even be addressed is sad and just shows where the devs priorities are. More interested in implementing cutesy parasols and pervy 2b outfits.
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