XI should be free with an active XIV sub

[Kolaina]

Sure you can think that.

It still not going to happen after being seperate subs for a decade. Again to compare it to WoW, classic is a smaller limit game compared to XI that has a handfull of expansions included and years of content.
As much I love a discount or joint sub it will not happen.

All I said was I didn’t agree with their comparison. I didn’t place my opinion on the original sentiment in any direction. You are too used to trying to flex your epeen on these forums that you bring out the strawmen

[Kranel_San]

Playinline is a hot mess. It's the first boss encounter of XI, or so the joke goes.

Not sure when you tried the download, but I believe it should be one big file now to at least install everything. You will still need to contend with POL though to get into the game :x

I remember my attempt at downloading and playing the game was one year ago during XIV patch 5.3
The files weren't a real issue, to begin with, as I didn't have a problem just dumbing all the five into one big file. The issue was in launching the game as things were vague and had to watch more than one youtube guide, which after seeing how complicated it is i just gave up on trying the game. I Might try it again but not in the foreseeable future.
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[Bearded]

No interest in FFXI - why another thread about this?

[Sotaris]

You are too used to trying to flex your epeen on these forums that you bring out the strawmen

My what? What strawmen? Cause I think XI and XIV isn't same thing as wow retail and classic? Ok.

[grinkdaboy]

No interest in FFXI - why another thread about this?

incredibly boneheaded and selfcentered statement

[Bearded]

incredibly boneheaded and selfcentered statement

Why should I have to pay (cause the sub would go up no matter that some think) for a game I cannot play as it is not available on my OS?

They are totally different games - some people like to play both but the vast majority play one or the other.

Check your attitude at the door and to not flame people for simply stating the truth - there are other threads on this.

[Halivel]

Saying that FFXI should be bundled with FFXIV is same as saying that they should gift FFI along with the purchase of FFXV - it makes little to no sense.

In case with WoW Retail and WoW Classic it's the same game in two different versions.

In case with FFXI and FFXIV it's two completely different games that, despite all the direct and not-so-direct references aren't connected to each other. It's not the same experience as with WoW Classic and it couldn't be.

Plus FFXI is still getting updates, meaning it has its own separate budget. This so-called "bundle" might hurt both games as a result, because instead of living their own lives these two titles will have to separate an already limited budget between each other. And considering that playerbase overlaps at least a little bit - this summarized budget will be even less than what we have now separately unless they will decide to raise sub price.

Something like a small discount for a sub if you play both games does sound like a nice thing to have, but bundle really doesn't sound like a good idea, even if it were meant to happen (which I think they stated they won't do, so we're really just talking hypothetically here).

[Luluna]

Loved FFXI and still do, FFXI it is the same company and I feel people seem forget that.

I do feel that FFXI is a little overpriced and I would go back more often if it was a little lower.

Great game though but just old...a bit like me

[Sotaris]

Loved FFXI and still do, FFXI it is the same company and I feel people seem forget that.

I do feel that FFXI is a little overpriced and I would go back more often if it was a little lower.

Great game though but just old...a bit like me

It's only overpriced cause they charge character slots and extra inventory (which pretty much is a must nowadays if you level multiple Lv99s and have multiple gearsets)
I re-subbed last weekend and had to pay €18 for 2 character slots and 2 inventory services.

But at the same time I also pay like €20 for my XIV sub with retainers.

Why should I have to pay (cause the sub would go up no matter that some think) for a game I cannot play as it is not available on my OS?

That's an assumption it would go up. I think the people who want a merged sub is price is unchanged, as they usually compare it to wow and classic where sub wasn't changed.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Do I get a sub discount if I don't play XI for not taking up server space? Because nothing I've read about it makes me want to try it.