Thread: What if in 7.0 they do what gw2 do for new clases

This has come up several times and the general consensus is, what is the point? As an example, we will take your example of giving Warrior a sword and making it a DPS.

So, Warrior now has a sword, its animations are built for an axe, so they will need changing to better suit a sword. Then you have the fact alot of the Warrior kit is designed with tanking in mind, all the defensive buffs, strong heals etc. so they would have to change, preferably into more damage orientated abilities to make the rotation more engaging. Then, the abilities they do keep, they will probably have to adjust potencies and add interactions to the new abilities etc.

At this point, you have basically made a new job, so, why not just make a new job rather than trying to repurpose an existing job.

I should also add they had massive problems with balancing between Scholar and Summoner in the past, just because changing one changed the other. Now it is not an issue as the only thing Scholar takes from Arcanist is Resurrection, everything else is a separate ability. They have slowly been decouling the jobs and I wouldn't be surprised if they completely separate them at some point.

Well, this is Square Enix and a numbered Final Fantasy title we are talking about; whatever change they do take on it's going to have a very particular feel and vibe to it; even if Yoshi P and his crew may become inspired by something a western title has already created; this game will do it differently, and you'll probably never notice.

At the end of the day these guys at SE love creating; and Final Fantasy itself- the world and it's universe- still has much in it's bag that Yoshi P hasn't pulled from yet; and it's a very large bag.

Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

I think it would still take less development resources to base a new job on an existing class rather than have to come up with a totally new design.

Also we are reaching a point where leveling multiple jobs on a single character is a chore. At least the way I play the game, I wouldn't mind at all if I woke up to find out that my GLD or CNJ experience automatically unlocked a new class. The SMN/SCH dichotomy is actually a really appealing solution to cut down on leveling grind (which is already becoming nearly unmanageable for new players on top of the mandatory MSQ grind).

Also, I really just want a greathammer job, and we already have the warrior's skeleton and animations so why not use some of them. When we already have SMN/SCH and WHM/BLM sharing templates, reusing templates just seems like a really good way to introduce new content and revitalize old content.

No, it really wouldn't be less development resources. New weapon skills, new abilities, new traits, new animations, those are all things they'd be doing for a new job. Given how the GW2 Elite Specs fundamentally change the nature of how a class plays, if you adopted that system you wouldn't even be able to maintain the core class skills, you'd be revamping that as well. You would be making a whole new job, you'd just be naming it Warrior with a Hammer.

The only thing you'd get out of it is not having to level the job again but leveling is so absurdly easy that its not really a chore to do. Using MSQ, leveling and lv50/60/70 roulettes, and beast tribes you can level everything within a year playing less than 2 hours a day on average, faster if you're not lazy like me. You don't even have to grind to get levels really, just play however you want to and you'll get enough xp to level everything within the expansion. Literally, the only way to not level is to only do things only your lv 80 job and if that's all you like to play then don't worry about other jobs.

A lot of people like the 2 for 1 leveling you get with ARC/SCH/SMN but devs have stated on multiple occasions they made a mistake there and its haunted them ever since. That style of job has done nothing but cause problems for both devs and players thanks to balancing a dps job against a healer. There are few things the devs will bluntly say no to without equivocation, doing this again is one of them.

Don't worry, you aren't alone with wanting a greathammer job, its easily one of the top 3 requested job weapons and I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the next expansion after EW.

This completely goes against the very idea of the Armoury System, in that your class is your weapon, hence pretty much little to no variation in weapon types (yes I know GLA/PLD has a gunblade, DRK a katana and multiple classes/Jobs (including mages!) a scythe for instance but those are exceptions for fanservice purposes or for glamour and are not the rule - also in all cases they were added before those relevant weapon types were given their own dedicated Jobs).

As for a class changing role, SE tried that with ACN getting a healer Job (SCH) as well as a DPS Job upgrade (SMN), and by all accounts SE considered it a failure, so it's clear they will not repeat this, as it is just too difficult to have to rebalance abilities and stats between different roles.