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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    Im talking BRD vs ARC only not how much of a DPS boost a BRD will bring to a party since you know this is about solo play. I know a few BRD that would very much disagree with you.
    Even solo brd wins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    but a bard will out damage an archer with paeon of war and rain of death even on single targets.

    keen flurry and invigorate cannot compete with the ability to spam your 10second skills repeatedly even without comboing them. and rain of death just pwns
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Even solo brd wins.

    Like I said I know a few BRD that would very much disagree with you, I'm not gonna just take your word for it.
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    Viritess Vonschalt
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'll just repost this since i think its the best cure for Class vs job issues. The thread this post is from is mostly about adding more jobs. But the class mechanics i suggest work without additional jobs. Enjoy.

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    You could also add skills to each class that removes the "role" of classes, and have jobs add some skills and then allow those jobs to choose from the "focused" list of skills. For example

    Lancer is a DD class and Dragoon is a DD Job. If you added skills for Lancer that gave it a tanking role but barred Dragoon from using Tanking skills you would build not only a use for Lancer itself (you could tank or DD with it) But also preserve the DRagoon job focus (DD specializeation)

    If this was done with every class GLD, MRD, CNJ (Heals/DD) etc then not only would current jobs be a specialization/improvement on a specific focus. But also open up the basis for additional jobs that occupy a different role.

    Maybe a a new job from Lancer could be a long staff using tanking job. And by equipping a longstaff this class can choose from a defined list of lancer abilities mostly consisting of the tanking type plus the skills that are rewarded by being this longstaff user.

    And as far as a Dark Knight goes. By adding DD and tanking abilities to base classes you can now add greatsword as DK only Job weapons and say you choose GLD as the "Base" class you now have a choice of mostly DD skills for the DK while PLD gets choice mostly from the Tanking GLD skills.

    ANd classes servive because though not specialized they can DD and tank. Switch as needed but not do as well as the jobs.

    You get specialization with Jobs and a focused choice of class carry-over skills. And job specific skills.

    You get versatility of Role and skill selection with classes but not quite the focused power from jobs. But you can Tank of DD with your GLD, or Lancer, or MRD.
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