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    Rykan Berkhart
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulric View Post
    This is not FFXI. This is FFXIV. I'm sorry to disappoint you with this information, but it's a reality you are just going to have to accept. You don't want SE to try new stuff? Then, what's going to draw people in? Pretty graphics aren't all that makes a game, and if the content in the game is all just copy & paste, why not play a cheaper/free game? If everyone lived by "Oh, that's new, I won't touch it." We'd still be in caves, with pointed sticks.

    Also, if you'd stop looking at classes and jobs doing the same thing, I'm sure you'd find that they really don't. In the case of Lancer and Dragoon, Dragoon trades off it's survivability for extra damage and TP gain. Whereas staying on Lancer gives you better survivability through cures, stoneskin, etc.

    To be honest, LNC/DRG are the only things I can say this with and know I'm right, so anything beyond this, I'd love for someone who knows to be able to correct me.

    Marauder and Warrior. I'm not too sure that Warrior loses anything at the moment, but after 1.22b, it may be a trade-off between damage and tanking ability.

    Archer and Bard. Well, Archer is straight DPS while Bard is more support. I'd assume that while doing your songs, you won't be attacking or using weaponskills, thus lowering your DPS in order to support your party.

    Conjurer and White Mage. Conjurer is able to be a very good magic-using DD, while White Mage takes away abilities to augment that damage for better healing abilities.

    Thaumaturge and Black Mage. See Lancer above....

    I have nothing for verification on this, so I also apologize if this is incorrect.
    I believe it has been said by one of the devs that classes are here to stay. If you want jobs only, go back to FFXI. Complaining about things like this, while not adding anything that would be a reasonable fix, and would also not make the people working on this game go completely batty, is cluttering up our forums that are supposed to be used for the betterment of our communities, and the game.
    I realize this is my first post, but for everyone's information, my brother and friend both have accounts. I've been watching and playing this game since the launch; so, don't dismiss my input.

    Anyway, I love how you added that last sentence about "See lancer above" for CNJ and THM...You know why that's so funny? I'll tell you why:

    It's hilarious because it just shows everyone how UNINVENTIVE this stupid class--->job system is, and how imperative it is to REPLACE it. Pretty much EVERY class trades off survivability for "better dmg/tp/spam, etc." Archers, Marauders, Gladiators, Lancers, Thaumaturges, and so on were ALL curing themselves to hell, spamming themselves in stoneskin, protecting themselves, Bloodbath-ing, Second Wind-ing, etc. So, what other choice did SE have with jobs, other than trading off survivability for what the da$% job's actual role is lol...

    Jobs, as they are now, are just SE's DESPERATE attempt at salvaging this really big fail of a system. They didn't have the heart to phase classes out completely, so instead they created "Jobs" that work the way classes should have worked in the first place. The only Archers, Marauders, and Lancers that should have been curing/stoneskin-ing/protecting themselves are the ones that are "dumb enough" to "sub whm."

    The Armoury System is garbage. SE made a very NOBLE effort at innovation, and kudos for trying so hard, but it just is...not......working.........................

    Any chance we had for being unique is thrown completely out the window. Every Dragoon is just a carbon copy of any other Dragoon, as is every other choice. At least with XI, although /nin ruined it, there was an OPPORTUNITY to be different than the next guy. If they DID embrace a system SIMILAR to FFXI (NOT a carbon copy) , then this game might have a chance. I'm telling you right now, though, if you can't get the hell over your anti-XI, hater mentality, then these issues will never be resolved.
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    Last edited by Rykan; 05-01-2012 at 08:33 AM.