Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
Aside from Bahamut, Enkidu, Thordan, and the Bozjan queen whose name escapes me just now, we have no irrefutable evidence that any of the primals ever actually existed beyond folklore before being summoned.

Good King Moogle Mogg is a strong maybe, since he's just a bigger moogle; Ravana's physical form seems to be based on an Allagan construct (seen in the Fractal Continuum as a boss), but it's never really addressed; and Susano may or may not count as a primal at all, if there's any real difference between a primal and a kami.

And Alexander is a weird case, because the primal is based on the folklore based on the primal because time loop shenanigans, I don't want to think about it too hard.
Alexander is a BAFFLING mess of time travel paradoxes, because what you forgot to include is that he's also based on the Enigma Codex's descriptions of an impossible machine (which may itself be based partly on the folklore). So it's a primal, based on blueprints for a machine, based on folklore, based on the primal. And then of course we have to add in the Tycoon, which is a machine, based on the primal, based on blueprints for a machine, based on folklore, based on the primal.

All that just makes you look back fondly on Ifrit, who's literally just 'angry fire god'.

Although some other amendments: The Queen's name is Gunnhildr! Also, speaking of Ifrit, there is mention in the Tales from the Shadows stories of a fire spirit in the days of Amaurot named Ifrita; it's not clear if or how she's related to modern Ifrit, but there's clearly the hint that she is. Also, Susano is a primal, but is one created entirely by accident, based on the kami.