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    I think no one disagrees pedophilia is disgusting and its really bad to see kids become victims. The disagreement is at the part where people say blanket banning mods/gposes because such issues exist should happen.

    This is basically the Jack Thompson logic train from the late 90s-2000s where video games should be banned because they are "murder simulators" because GTA and Manhunt exist. The problem arises that SE cannot pick and choose because under their own ToS -- such modding is a questionable area, and if SE does act - it could potentially ruin a good amount of player experience.

    Seeing such lackadaisical enforcement of policies before to not fight against a player margin (*cough* Gil buyers *cough* ACT users *cough* Quicklauncher users *cough*) shows that SE would rather allow such things unless something absolutely dire needs to be solved. Could this be the case? Maybe, but it would call into question on how Square dictates player-side texture mods.

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    Side note: RPers (specifically that section of RPers) needs to be better aware of who is partaking in their services and RP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    I think no one disagrees pedophilia is disgusting and its really bad to see kids become victims. The disagreement is at the part where people say blanket banning mods/gposes because such issues exist should happen.

    This is basically the Jack Thompson logic train from the late 90s-2000s where video games should be banned because they are "murder simulators" because GTA and Manhunt exist. The problem arises that SE cannot pick and choose because under their own ToS -- such modding is a questionable area, and if SE does act - it could potentially ruin a good amount of player experience.

    Seeing such lackadaisical enforcement of policies before to not fight against a player margin (*cough* Gil buyers *cough* ACT users *cough* Quicklauncher users *cough*) shows that SE would rather allow such things unless something absolutely dire needs to be solved. Could this be the case? Maybe, but it would call into question on how Square dictates player-side texture mods.

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    Side note: RPers (specifically that section of RPers) needs to be better aware of who is partaking in their services and RP.
    I will say GTA did teach me how to never pay for a prostitute. Life lessons only found in a video game.


    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    However it's inconsistent based on media or possibly just where the media has come from. Awhile back they were attacking a manga/anime character named Uzaki claiming her depiction was encouraging pedophilia when it was openly stated she was a 19yr old college student who just happened to be really short. At the same time they said nothing about a US show on I think Netflix that literally had actual 12-14yr old girls in provocative costumes doing provocative dances on stage.
    Yeah I do agree. To be fair this aspect of selective outrage against certain forms of child exploitation is kinda funny to me but I also have a sick sense od humor.
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    Last edited by Awha; 09-14-2021 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    This thread has really made me question do we even need an NA official forum. The fact such a thread could exist and the fact people can feel okay with posting such vile takes without any consequence is what is most appalling by all of this.

    I get free speech is a thing but the moderation team should not let people get away with such damaging view points.
    I’m surprised the mods have done absolutely nothing againt your main account and this alt one, Plushy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    However it's inconsistent based on media or possibly just where the media has come from. Awhile back they were attacking a manga/anime character named Uzaki claiming her depiction was encouraging pedophilia when it was openly stated she was a 19yr old college student who just happened to be really short. At the same time they said nothing about a US show on I think Netflix that literally had actual 12-14yr old girls in provocative costumes doing provocative dances on stage.
    The outrage over Uzaki (and I agree not warranted as within what I watched of the show she was always presented as a college student and a adult) was comparatively small compared to the massive outrage that Netflix film caused, and that one was warranted as it was creepy, gross and never should've seen the light of day.
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    Even the west's excessively puritanical standards towards sex can't adequately explain ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN PAGES.

    You guys can't control yourselves.
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    Greetings everyone!

    Thank you for taking the time to post your feedback here. The original topic of this thread seems to have been fully discussed, and additional discussions on this topic have veered quite far away from the original topic and concern. We will be closing this thread to avoid any further off topic heated discussions. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for taking the time to respond in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    You are a scary person with abysmal takes.

    This is not kids being with kids and doing naughty makeout RP. This is adults promoting sex, often with heavy fetishes, in a space where children are.
    Children should never, ever be put in a sexual situation with or by an adult regardless of who started it. Nor should they be exposed to explicitly sexual content in media that is specifically rated for their age group.

    This game is not rated for adults. It is made as an all-ages game and should be treated as such.

    Also, nice admitting that you turn a blind eye to paedophiles. As if people who make CP with game assets/art/writing don't partake in real stuff... Just the fact that they do that at all, real or not, is indictive of a very serious problem. To believe otherwise is ignorance or stupidity.
    The game is rated T, what are you on about 'children'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Norvrandt time is mental not physical, btu even so, elezen age differently. The twins may be around 16 or 17 but are actually less mature than that. Can read the EE for more info on that. They state that it was like, a couple weeks or something that we were in norvrandt compared to the source. So most of ShB occurs in two weeks. Doesnt really help if shes 15 16 or 17, fact of the matter is girl is still a teen.
    Now its the "race x ages differently"-card? Good. Lalafell age much faster than any other race! >: D
    And Au Ra age very slow. My 20 years old looking Au Ra is actually 16. How do you like that? ; )

    And Ryne is within the age of consent. In my country and in most parts of the world (including JP, the birthplace of FFXIV).
    If you excuse me now, I have to farm some Eden 8 Savage. For glamours, of course ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    16 being the age of consent in some parts of the world doenst make it any less gross. It's the sexualization of a minor, doesnt matter if in some country its the age of consent.

    Is it? Because ryne is not a minor. She is not real. Unless now fake pixels is a victim and a law has been broken?

    I'm really trying to understand here, but it is hard to be upset about something that makes no victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Is it? Because ryne is not a minor. She is not real. Unless now fake pixels is a victim and a law has been broken?

    I'm really trying to understand here, but it is hard to be upset about something that makes no victims.
    because sexual depiction of minors is illegal, no matter if pixelated or not, hello??? why are people straight up downplaying this, this is utterly disgusting. the thought alone people defending lewd art of minors in this game makes my stomach turn and gives shivers down my spine. this is so gross im sorry and gives off huge red flags

    Yoshi P:
    There are people using mods to take (lewd) screenshots in the game, people say I haven’t been taking a stance on this. It isn’t allowed.”

    Depending on the content you publish, it goes beyond just getting a penalty from Square Enix, in some countries some of the screenshots we see are against the law. We want to avoid being asked ‘What game are these screenshots taken in? Change the data, don’t let them do this’, so I ask you to please refrain from using mods.”
    respect it, there is nothing more to say.
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