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  1. #51
    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It isn't really a case of people taking to the moral high ground. Some actions are almost universally looked upon with contempt and disgust in civilised, lawful societies - and quite rightly, too.

    To say nothing of the fact that everybody playing Final Fantasy XIV agreed to abide by a specific set of rules. If those rules are breached, then there's a real risk of punishment and based on the severity of the action then things could very well be elevated and sent to the appropriate authorities.

    Rules only matter if they are enforced. Since they can't enforced this. The rule does not matter. That is the simple truth.

    Second law side communication with a minor for immoral purposes is a law, but if the person lies about her age, . You understand just how hard it would be to have these charges held?


    When I said taking a moral high ground it is more on the lines of being outrage about something that you can't change, and have to accept like it or not.
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    Last edited by Jadedsins; 08-29-2021 at 02:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Balmung and Mateus as far as i know. You can always switch to EU! We don't have such erp servers.

    But even Balmung can be relative normal, just stay as far away from the quicksand as possible. I was playing for like 2 years over there cause my BF is from NA. At some point you get used to getting messaged by complete strangers which ask for erp and are creeps. xD Not to mention that i am a lalafell...
    And avoid the large FCs, their chats are just full blown sexual harassment. It's actually insane what I've seen that officers let slide.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    If you can't stop it, and you understand teens are very sexual active. Doing it with no risk to their body is the lesser evil.
    I'm talking about the mods here. You keep going back to the ERP involving minors.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    - It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

    -Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

    - It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

    - I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.
    Maybe you should tell your friend here not to talk about it. No, it is not on the parents that their kids are playing a T game and are a T.

    Anyway, I am talking about individual responsibility. Of course they won't do it. If they did, they would not have made or used these mods in the first place, because no responsible person would do that. I don't actually expect any of them to do the right thing, but they argue nothing can be done. However, that is not true. They can simply stop doing it, and most certainly don't post it on Twitter all the time. It shouldn't be about what you think you can get away with, and instead it should be about what is right.

    There is a legal way for SE to handle this, but it is a really sucky method, but it could come down to that or worse.
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  4. #54
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    Imagine you invite me to your house to meet your family.

    But when I arrive I say "Actually I don't like pants" and take them off.

    That's what NSFW modding is.

    You are playing a T rated game. Not M nor AO. When you signed up for the game you accepted you are playing a T rated game. If you want adult content go play an adult game.
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    The reality is this only people that can protect the children are the parents. What do you want SE to do Scan our PC at every login?

    We have to face facts kids will be exposed to content on the internet it is up to the parents to make sure they know better but understand the risks if they are not comfortable with said risks then do they need to do something about it.

    Also let us not pretend that children can also lore adults by lying about their age showing fake images etc . . .

    People suck.
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  6. #56
    Player Jadedsins's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    I'm talking about the mods here. You keep going back to the ERP involving minors.



    Maybe you should tell your friend here not to talk about it. No, it is not on the parents that their kids are playing a T game and are a T.

    Anyway, I am talking about individual responsibility. Of course they won't do it. If they did, they would not have made or used these mods in the first place, because no responsible person would do that. I don't actually expect any of them to do the right thing, but they argue nothing can be done. However, that is not true. They can simply stop doing it, and most certainly don't post it on Twitter all the time. It shouldn't be about what you think you can get away with, and instead it should be about what is right.

    There is a legal way for SE to handle this, but it is a really sucky method, but it could come down to that or worse.

    Sorry, two topics by groups of people.


    To me it is pixels and I can't see it.. Someone making a case about if it becomes wildly spread, but um rule 4 stuff and art is i bet even more wide spread. So ehhhh hard to make that case.
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    Last edited by Jadedsins; 08-29-2021 at 02:07 PM. Reason: LOL had to correct it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Imagine you invite me to your house to meet your family.

    But when I arrive I say "Actually I don't like pants" and take them off.

    That's what NSFW modding is.

    You are playing a T rated game. Not M nor AO. When you signed up for the game you accepted you are playing a T rated game. If you want adult content go play an adult game.
    I don't think it's any different from doing something like installing NSFW mods to single player games like Skyrim or Sims 4.

    ...Well, as long as you don't wave NSFW screenshots around like an idiot anyways, because there's always people who have to ruin it because they can't keep it in their pants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    I don't think it's any different from doing something like installing NSFW mods to single player games like Skyrim or Sims 4.

    ...Well, as long as you don't wave NSFW screenshots around like an idiot anyways, because there's always people who have to ruin it because they can't keep it in their pants
    That's the issue being discussed here. About how the NSFW community has become so brazen as to be giving interviews to famous streamers.

    Go to twitter and type FFXIV, go to images, and there's a very high chance that within the first 10 images there'll be a NSFW one.

    It gives a false depiction of what the game is actually like, and can potentially be damaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Go to twitter and type FFXIV, go to images, and there's a very high chance that within the first 10 images there'll be a NSFW one.
    Man, way to get my hopes up for nothing. I just scrolled for five minutes and didn't find any NSFW modded images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    That's the issue being discussed here. About how the NSFW community has become so brazen as to be giving interviews to famous streamers.

    Go to twitter and type FFXIV, go to images, and there's a very high chance that within the first 10 images there'll be a NSFW one.

    It gives a false depiction of what the game is actually like, and can potentially be damaging.
    You're not wrong about the NSFW community being more brazen, there'll always be people who abuse a privilege they're given, but the actually responsible people can't do much about it aside from maybe report their accounts if they leave evidence linking to their actual characters.

    That being said, that one person doesn't represent the NSFW community, they're just an attention seeking thot who doesn't mind selling out an entire community as long as a few thousand people pay attention to them for a few minutes
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