Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Alaray]

It's really not that big of a deal.

I literally never experience these aspects of XIV unless I explicitly go out looking for it, the only other thing that happens is someone complimenting my character in a one-off fairly friendly way. These are also things that have existed throughout every MMO for as long back as I can remember, and there have been numerous attempts by police agencies to break into the spaces (Namely, Goldshire in WoW) to set up Chris-Hansen style sting operations to find predators and I don't believe there was one that turned up anything of substance.

Doing an extensive banwave of people using NSFW mods doesn't really do anything tangibly worthwhile, other than divert the resources people claim to be so stretched and precious to something that won't change anything. NSFW artwork will still exist. NSFW photo manipulations will still exist. ERP will still exist.

SE doesn't pay me to care about their corporate visage, so I don't.

[Dogempire]

Modding opinions aside, it's really sad that someone would be willing to sell out the entire modding community just to get 5 minutes of fame on some dude that nobody cares about's stream

[Zsolen]

It is a big deal.

The person being interviewed admitted there were people doing lewd mods of npcs that were minors. That is not a made up thing. Nude mods in generally being flaunted on twitter is a massive deal. Anything bad for SE is bad for the players. You have to be very short-sighted not to see that.

There are people in the past that said a minor was being sexually harassed in game. There are people that said they themselves were (adults and minors). I was also. It's only been 3 times since 3.0, but that is 3 times too many.

A bigger player base adds to resources, not a few NSFW modders being whales. The money SE gets from these NSFW modders is going to be nothing in comparison to what they do and can potentially get from everyone else. If you don't care about SE's image, then you also don't care if SE makes enough money to do even more for the game. People don't want to play the 'lewd' mmo, and SE certainly would not want to be seen that way.

[kaynide]

I think its less about the erp community and more about the nsfw mods and what they could bring. As I said, people take lewd photo's of lalafells, twins and ryne and gaia and post them on twitter, discord and other places.
FF14 is getting way more popular and these lewd mods are just gonna be bad press if SE doesn't show theyre doing something about it.
SE doesn't care if two adult are getting their freak on with lewd texting its the mods dummies are posting on twitter for anybody can see. On top
Modder making 1k+ dollars off SE assists.

In an ideal world, this would be fine, kept behind closed doors or whatever. However, history shows game companies become responsible for the things their games are capable of. I remember specifically Rockstar getting in trouble because a mod (hot coffee mod) enabled erotic play in one of their GTA games. This caused the game to lose its rating and become an Adults only game, including a ban of the game in some countries.

Most MMOs keep a nude version of characters for modeling purposes (not detailed, like a Barbie). This alone caused minor problems for Guildwars and they had to adjust files to obfuscate their model better.

So, yeah, I think YoshiP has every right to be both concerned and rather strict about it.

It’s not a matter of “oh noes”, it’s a matter of money and sales.

[Zsolen]

If it can't be fixed as you claim (your claim not mine), then stop doing it. It's that simple.

Stop ERPing with people you don't know, don't harass people, and don't make/play these NSFW mods. Honestly, it's mush less of an issue for a legal adult consenting and providing proof than it is to get minors involved. It's not even close. That is a very poor argument.

Yes, it is bad to paint minors in a sexual light, even if fictional. It also carries legal penalties. You keep trying to distance yourself, but then you have this take where you think it is okay to have a fetish over children.

[Zsolen]

Scum? There are plenty of scum in the world that still despise pedophilia.

[LianaThorne]

- It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

-Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

- It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

- I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.

[Jadedsins]

Scum? There are plenty of scum in the world that still despise pedophilia.

I'm sure that is the case, but who in here supports it? Just because I accept that kids will do this, does not mean I'm like "Yay and cheering" it is more on the line of, well text is better than real. So I can just hope that they are raised well enough not to take risks.


Like I said, this subject is just a feel good subject to be upset about. It also brings up some harsh memories of my childhood as I said before. We can all say it is wrong and I admit it was wrong on the first or second page. Does anyone have a answer on how to stop kids from being sexual active online? Because you can't.


If you can't stop it, and you understand teens are very sexual active. Doing it with no risk to their body is the lesser evil.

[Jadedsins]

- It won't be going away unless modding is removed from the game, which isn't happening since SE doesn't want to get involved with our PCs.

-Telling people to stop using mods is like telling a brick wall to not be made out of brick. Save your breath and pick a different battle.

- It is on both the person using the mods to not engage with minors and also on the parents of the minor to be involved in their internet habits.

- I love how this went from a convo about NSFW mods and people using them to take photos for social media to ERP and minors being solicited. Ya'll are aware they are 2 totally different things right? One doesn't automatically mean the other is taking place.

Ya it is kinda my fault, when someone used kids as an excuse to get rid of these mods. I kinda jumped on that.

[Theodric]

It isn't really a case of people taking to the moral high ground. Certain actions are almost universally looked upon with contempt and disgust in civilised, lawful societies - and quite rightly, too.

To say nothing of the fact that everybody playing Final Fantasy XIV agreed to abide by a specific set of rules. If those rules are breached, then there's a real risk of punishment and based on the severity of the action then things could very well be elevated and sent to the appropriate authorities.

Members of the development team have also spoken out in the past and informed people not to sexualise characters who are not of legal age and also to not make use of inappropriate mods - because such things could risk the game's very existence.