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  1. #341
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    I'm trying to understand this topic without engaging the topic, is that possible?

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  2. #342
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plushy View Post
    I think its less about the erp community and more about the nsfw mods and what they could bring. As I said, people take lewd photo's of lalafells, twins and ryne and gaia and post them on twitter, discord and other places.
    If you watch the video, though, the modder explicitly states that content centered around the lalas and the twins is heavily frowned upon within their community. You're talking about the dysfunctional fringe of the fringe here. The stuff that gets posted on Twitter and Discord should be moderated on Twitter and Discord. I don't think SE is obligated to police every single piece of fan art posted on third party sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    I'm trying to understand this topic without engaging the topic, is that possible?

    Boys have a sausage. Girls have an oyster.
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  4. #344
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Personally speaking, what happens in the privacy of an FC house, apartment, or otherwise, should stay there. If you're walking into THAT, then you likely knew full well what was going on to begin with. Nude mods are nude mods, they've been around forever, and SE can't do anything about them anyway without egregious breaches of privacy. As for the 'minors' thing, again, that should be aggressively policed by the community.

    The thing is, any action SE takes in an official capacity sets a precedent going forward, and I believe the dev's stance is to avoid setting precedents unless absolutely necessary, see the banning of streamers for using parsers to encourage harassment.

    To be frank, brothels and the like might not be my thing, but if they've having fun with the game in their own way, and it's in private, then I'm not inclined to care all that much.
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  5. #345
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    Unfortunately, it is routinely NOT done in private, and these "venues" are also advertised frequently specifically for the goal of making gil. On top of that, many of these modders sound to be doing it for actual money as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Asmongold is/was being sought out specifically to advertise "venues".
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 09-01-2021 at 10:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    I'll miss your posts and hope you reconsider that decision
    Many thanks kind one! I may occasionally still beyond this one, we shall seeeee.

    This one will be shorter then the usual giant Mia walls of words and letters though. Well.. minus having to quote, that makes the post fricken huuuge! Oh who am I kidding no it will not.. I enjoy writing!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    1) If every interaction with the public goes sour for you, the most common denominator is you/your behavior. Maybe reflect on how you are interacting or the manner/places you choose to interact.
    I see this said in places much and there is much I could say in response but shall keep brief. I have done that and made my decision on the matter. I understand sentiment of the statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    2) The excessive language doesn’t help. While using bad language in of itself isn’t bad, using it excessively shows a lack of composure or a lack of maturity which rarely works in your favor. In my office we call this “final protective fire”, as in you simply have nothing else to add to the conversation.

    Correct. There are not many things I can add when I am insulted or called racist. It tends to make one feisty which welp, results in the lack of composure. Also, I know plenty of mature people who use excessive bad language. That is.. you know what nope nope.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    3)As you said, being underage and looking underage is different. If this is such a problem in your life, consider looking into fashion choices or how you act to better reflect your age. Japanese like my wife look much younger than they are, but you would never mistake her for a child with her sharp fashion/hair.
    No. I will not alter how I behave or act simply because there are ones out there who cannot move beyond preconceived notions of appearance and behavior. Me acting silly or dressing less "mature" hurts no one. Forcing me to change my hair, clothes, and personality does hurt me. Hard pass! Will also not get into medical conditions and growth hormones because lack the necessary knowledge and it is personal.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    4) I f you make mistakes, admit to them quickly and with grace.
    I am uncertain what this has to do with my posts? It is fairly obvious thing to do but I will not bend the knee for getting upset. I may have misinterpreted though and do this lots with English!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    5)My final and probably most useful bit of advice: When you have finished typing out your responses on forums, look over it and ask “does this add anything useful or constructive to the conversation?” If not, delete and move on.
    This is unnecessary.
    First definition of forum found on the google; a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

    I believe I have filled the aforementioned criteria to the best ability.

    Quote Originally Posted by JTF-Taru View Post
    There's no need to quit because one guy upset you. I suggest editing your post to tone it down a bit, then not coming back to the thread to avoid further upset.
    Many thanks to you as swell! This will be my final post in this thread, well possibly.. I have issue but I will not alter the post as it feels kinda disingenuous to do this. I became mad and said it and that is that, if others think less of me it would not be first and will not be final time either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raasu View Post
    Wanted to quickly respond to this part because it's getting really tiring how lately some people on this forum are trying to force some weird internet culture clash between westerners and the Japanese.
    Saying ugh westerners really ruffled the jimmies as I have heard my uncle say. I have issue with Western ideology for reasons this here thread did little to abate. You can belong to any culture but still parrot western morals and I will still find it mildly irritating, which as sentient being I am entitled to do. I have no fricken clue how this evolved to "forcing a clash between Japanese and others" there are plenty of JP who do not like western way of thinking. Culture clash is common thing in a world with so many.

    I will answer your question though! Many apologies for insulting you, this topic brings great feist.

    No, I do not care what people do with Lalafell because Lala's are not children. I do not see them or think they look like children because this is not how I think. I think short race with pointy ears like dwarf or gnome, goblin or fay. It was somewhat startling for me when it became issue actually. This is a sentiment the writing staff agrees with so I assumed (wrongfully, I can be naïve) it would not be problem.

    Is the word crux? Yes yes I believe crux, the crux of my post was a reaction to being insulted for saying "ugh westerners" I assume? The person kinda just exploded violently. I was then told "I am ashamed to share same race as you" by.. someone who called me racist.. ohhhh the irony. Then my partner was insulted for finding me attractive despite a medical condition I have no control over.

    Ohhhh right! I was beyond even this tangentially suggested I may be the big P word but could have misinterpreted. The umm, whole English thing.. Or that I overlook bad things that occur to real children. It should be "obvious" how I view my 34 year old Lalafell Warrior Of Light.

    Speaking of her! She was born an Ul'Dah Lalafell with quite high affinity for magic. Naturally this drew her to the Thaumaturge guild. She found fitting in here most difficult as this one possessed low desire to wield destructive magic's, favoring healing and protection barriers. Her journey took her away from Ul'Dah to Gridania the home of the conjurers guild!

    She would vanquish powerful foes and make friends along the way. A most unusual consortium of individuals! A long tall and handsome Elezen man lifted her spirits many a time for whom she developed feelings for. We all know how that ends.. but alas! There would be many many more friends and potential partners in her future!

    Though she lost many friends she gained many more and her story is not yet over! She will go on to refine the use of white magic and perhaps one day she can bring back those she has lost just as Emit wished too.

    So no. No oh silly ones in this thread, I never once viewed my Warrior of Light as a five year old child and no I never will. If you cannot accept this then I have only disdain for you and I feel kinda bad for you too! Try to look beyond it is message woven into the story of the game we are all playing, no?
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  7. #347
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    So if there is a minor abused and killed in some crime/fantasy books, the books should be burned?

    That would explain mass burn of books in Nazi and China, they were just trying to “burn the bad”

    LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by testname View Post
    So if there is a minor abused and killed in some crime/fantasy books, the books should be burned?

    That would explain mass burn of books in Nazi and China, they were just trying to “burn the bad”

    LMAO
    Written word is not visual depiction. The two are vastly different.
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  9. #349
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    A digital drawing or model is not a real person either.
    Sometimes it feels as if people can't tell the difference between a movie and a documentary.

    Btw, this whole thread conflating two entirely different issues is interesting, since different people argue different arguments. From the title it would seem the main issue would be the exposure of NSFW mods to a wider audience. But since most of the people in this thread don't find it that big of a deal, they try to reinforce their argument with the ultra extreme tangent of naked lalas. Since most people don't care about naked lalas (in the same manner noone cares about naked dogs), an even more extreme tangent is pushed that tries to correlate lalas to children.

    In it's core, a lala is a virtual doll. It's a doll designed for grown women to play dress up and relive their childhood. It's also a means for grown men to indulge themselves in doll playing, under no society pressure that discouraged them from playing with dolls. Normal people don't have any particular emotional reaction if they happen to see a naked doll. And in the ultra extreme (and unlike case) where any pedophile is attracted to virtual dolls, good for him/her, if they can control their vice by going after something that isn't even real.
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  10. #350
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    People need to realize, there's absolutely not real way for SE to effectively ban mods.

    Even if they updated the launcher to scan your game folder (which no one one should honestly want them to do), the best they could do is temporarily ban them with each major patch. Since no matter what the do, the mod developers will find a way around it.
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