Asmongold on NSFW mods

[lezard21]

And for those of you unclear, unless you are all willing to put spy ware on your pc for a product you paid for (spyware that acts more like a virus than a spyware) there is little than can be done aside from them denouncing modding as they have done before. And i doubt anyone who mods final fantasy is making enough money to live off of. So maybe take things from some random streamer with a grain of salt. They dont have to be honest with anything they present to you. They arent regulated

I am really curious where this idea started from. Because there are a lot of ways Square Enix could implement to check for mods that wouldn't require to install a spyware.

[Naoki34]

Asmongold blah blah blah

Who ? ... ... ...

[lezard21]

Adult themes exist on the internet, in every way shape and form. And all of you with your mock outrage for the kids. How many of you actually have kids? If you don’t you dont have a right to this opinion. As a parent it is my duty to monitor what my child does online, who they interact with and how. It’s my job to teach them not only how to protect themselves but why it is so important. And while yes some inappropriate mods exist in regards to certain characters. From my understanding the majority of that community shuns and denounces those people. So idk do some actual research before talkin out your bottoms.

Yes, it is parent's job to supervise what their kids do. And it could go down like this:

-Kid asks parent for FFXIV
-Parent reads FFXIV is rated T for Alcohol Reference, Animated Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence.
-Parent decides he is ok with his kid playing such a game and buys him FFXIV
-Parent then goes to twitter and comes across a FFXIV NSFW screenshot
-Parent assumes game has NSFW content and makes angry call to Square Enix. Or worse, stirs other parents up and they contact the ESRB board

So is it ok for the depraved entertainment of some few that the whole game could be affected?

I don't think so.

[Caurcas]

Asmongold really is saving this community. Bringing all this darkness to light.

[Darkpaw]

Yes, it is parent's job to supervise what their kids do. And it could go down like this:

-Kid asks parent for FFXIV
-Parent reads FFXIV is rated T for Alcohol Reference, Animated Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence.
-Parent decides he is ok with his kid playing such a game and buys him FFXIV
-Parent then goes to twitter and comes across a FFXIV NSFW screenshot
-Parent assumes game has NSFW content and makes angry call to Square Enix. Or worse, stirs other parents up and they contact the ESRB board

“Online interactions are not rated” - one

Two - parent on twitter comes across this and does no other investigation is not a parent,

Three - this is again a failure of parenting, as it is an online game i assume other people are going to be present so what do i do? I sit and watch and spend time with my kid so i know what it is they are exposed to.

Four - SE is not at the whim of every random lawsuit people can think of. Dear god it’s called corporate protections, otherwise every company would have been sued into oblivion by now by people especially nowadays being “offended” blizzard would be dead, half of hollywood would be broke, fox news would be bankrupt, as would every other news network, cd projekt red would be in lawsuit hell.

[Ranaku]

“Online interactions are not rated” - one

Two - parent on twitter comes across this and does no other investigation is not a parent,

Three - this is again a failure of parenting, as it is an online game i assume other people are going to be present so what do i do? I sit and watch and spend time with my kid so i know what it is they are exposed to.

Four - SE is not at the whim of every random lawsuit people can think of. Dear god it’s called corporate protections, otherwise every company would have been sued into oblivion by now by people especially nowadays being “offended” blizzard would be dead, half of hollywood would be broke, fox news would be bankrupt, as would every other news network, cd projekt red would be in lawsuit hell.

So if i go out there and molest a teenager even if said teen looked like she/he was 18...can i also tell the judge then that it's the parents fault?

Players who erp don't ask for identification nor any proof that the other side is in fact an adult. These people are the problem. People using a game that is also for children as a tinder substitute.

ERP and mods aren't bad. The people which are using them/providing them in the way they do are. Cause they aren't checked or controlled by anyone. It's like a stripclub having no bouncer, hey minors get in. ID card? What is an ID card?

[kaynide]

“Online interactions are not rated” - one

Two - parent on twitter comes across this and does no other investigation is not a parent,

Three - this is again a failure of parenting, as it is an online game i assume other people are going to be present so what do i do? I sit and watch and spend time with my kid so i know what it is they are exposed to.

Four - SE is not at the whim of every random lawsuit people can think of. Dear god it’s called corporate protections, otherwise every company would have been sued into oblivion by now by people especially nowadays being “offended” blizzard would be dead, half of hollywood would be broke, fox news would be bankrupt, as would every other news network, cd projekt red would be in lawsuit hell.

Seriously..this again?

This is at least the 4th or 5th time I’ve seen the whole “eRP is acceptable because online interactions aren’t rated!” / “kids shouldn’t play this game that is clearly rated for them!”

I’ll just copy/paste/edit what I did last time, I guess.

everyone is expected to adjust reasonably to what is accepted by the games rating (which is teen, btw), or risk trouble, especially when amongst strangers in a public setting.

You can’t shout profanity at a baseball stadium, or be crazy drunk at a restaurant without risk of getting thrown out, this is no different.

I have not advocated or asked anyone to "protect the children".

I said, I believe, very specifically, that this game is ESRB rated "Teen" and that comes with certain expectations and general rules. And you can choose to break them and generally people won't care. But if you got busted for breaking the rules, you deal with the consequences.

You DID read my posts right?

I'll try to break it down for you:

A) If I somehow took my kids to a stripper club or a "hedonist" beach, I would be an absolute idiot (and a Karen), were I to complain about topless women or sexual goings-on, yeah? Basically what idiots did when they complained about Deadpool not being a kids' movie. I assume we agree there.

B) If I took my kids to a family friendly beach or a hamburger shop which advertised as being for children I would be within my rights to complain about people getting it on in front of everyone, or topless waitresses. I mean, there's a reason Hooters goes as close to that line as they can without crossing it.

More to you specifically, if you are enjoying doing eRP or whatever, all the more power to you. Likely nobody cares if you swear like a sailor in your FC of friends.

But don’t you dare play the victim or claim ignorance if it all comes crashing down and/or you have some punishment for it, especially if you bring any of that filth to public chat.

[van_arn]

We need another calamity

[Lauront]

We need another calamity

Patience, patience. All good things in time.

[Bearded]

It is slightly disheartening how some equate these NSFW mods with role-play - they have nothing to do with role-play but they have a lot to do with ERP.

Please do not put genuine role-play and ERP in the same basket.