Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Goji1639]

Just going to quote this since it explains exactly what's wrong with this thread (and nope, it's not the mods or ERP in general).

I'm guessing most people got tired of the same few people making up phantom arguments they can rally against while being flexible with their own views. Looking at the latest five pages or so, the newest hottest take is that minors are actually lying about their age and are forcing or tricking adults into engaging with them. Cool.

Meanwhile, laws don't matter, ToS doesn't matter, personal views and requests from Yoshida and the development team don't matter either. Everything is perfect, the community is great and if you even slightly disagree you're probably a Puritan Karen who's forcing others to babysit kids and also definitely a bigger creep yourself.

In the end the most damning thing is that Square doesn't moderate this forum at all so now people get their space to go full-on Lord of the Flies up here.

All people are arguing for is the ability to use NSFW mods and ERP with other adults. There are no "laws" against any of it, so don't be obtuse.

People who don't like those 2 things are doing what people always do when they want to take a disingenuous, dramatic stance against something they don't like; they're making it about children. The solution to this issue with children becoming involved in communities that ARE NOT for them is simple; these children need better parents. That's it... The world doesn't need to change; communities excised; adult activities removed; people just need to start watching their kids.

Seriously, a little supervisions solves EVERYTHING.

It's against the TOS so why are you arguing for it? This isn't second life, so the space is for teens as much as it is for adults. I don't have a problem with either mods or ERP, most of us don't care, but half of you started rolling the.. It's not their fault to be attracted to children :c, saying art/mods depicting minors are A-okay, comparing it to LGBT, and caring more about these people's rights than those of the victims.

Please just stop.

A lot of you were making incorrect and honestly ridiculous claims about how pedophilia works, so of course you were being corrected. Art Mods depicting fictional characters are also fine; there are no actual children involved in the creation or use of any of those. If you want to protect children then protect ACTUAL children; trying to protect ryne, alphinaud, lalafels or whatever from 'exploitation' just makes you sound ridiculous and out of touch with reality. Those characters aren't real people, so what the modding community does with them in private is immaterial.

The real problem with these communities are things like grooming and targeting real life children, which are isolated/individual problems that don't justify attacking the communities as a whole.

Yeah thanks, you've been doing the same thing for a while now: picking out random words to reply to while ignoring the actual points and then it all goes in circles down the drain again. Especially glaring in this example since I explicitly mentioned it wasn't about mods or ERP and then you still decided to reply to me and focus on those things.

I do agree with one thing though, a little moderator supervision on this forum could solve a lot in this particular case.

That wasn't a counterargument; I was informing you of what people here are arguing for, since you seemed unaware.

One side is arguing for the removal of NSFW content and ERP because kids might become involved, and the other is arguing to keep those things and put more pressure on parents to actually watch their kids.

[Zsolen]

All people are arguing for is the ability to use NSFW mods and ERP with other adults. There are no "laws" against any of it, so don't be obtuse.

People who don't like those 2 things are doing what people always do when they want to take a disingenuous, dramatic stance against something they don't like; they're making it about children. The solution to this issue with children becoming involved in communities that ARE NOT for them is simple; these children need better parents. That's it... The world doesn't need to change; communities excised; adult activities removed; people just need to start watching their kids.

Seriously, a little supervisions solves EVERYTHING.

That is not what is happening, though. SE also does not want you to do that either. So don't do it. Simple. SE sees someone using a parser on stream, while not harassing people = No ban. SE sees someone ERPing = ban.

Also supervising what? They are playing a video made with their age in mind. You are acting like the children and their parents are wrong, because they are going by the game rating and the parent doesn't sit with the child throughout the gameplay. But the adult that ERPs with someone they don't know or maybe even DMs the kids out of the blue is totally innocent.

People in this thread complain about phantom arguments in this thread, but everyone has heard stories, witnessed something themselves, or were even a victim of something. The more someone like you tries to argue that is doesn't happen, the more suspicious you look.

[Fukuro]

devs don't scan our computers out of respect of privacy, ask us worried to refrain from using mods(because it's obviously against the TOS), especially very questionable mods which are illegal in a good amount of countries. not only could it damage the image of the game but also might bring devs in a sorry state because it draws very questionable individuals to a rated T (teen) game.
but yes, all of above is insignificant, because again, devs respect their customers private space and "don't enforce" their rules - which suddenly makes every illegal activity okay - but better defend people with a questionable morality and ethics who use illegal and disgusting mods(lewd mods of MINORS) that brings negative attention to the modding community in general. I would call that a real dick move.

[Goji1639]

devs don't scan our computers out of respect of privacy, ask us worried to refrain from using mods(because it's obviously against the TOS), especially very questionable mods which are illegal in a good amount of countries. not only could it damage the image of the game but also might bring devs in a sorry state because it draws very questionable individuals to a rated T (teen) game.
but yes, all of above is insignificant, because again, devs respect their customers private space and "don't enforce" their rules - which suddenly makes every illegal activity okay - but better defend people with a questionable mortality and ethics who use illegal and disgusting mods(lewd mods of MINORS) that brings negative attention to the modding community in general. I would call that a real dick move.

Every online game, or PC game in general, on the planet has nude mods and other weird crap that's not in any way officially affiliated with the game, but is still out there. That stuff doesn't actually hurt the game's image; people are familiar enough with the internet at this point to know that it's just what happens.

At the end of the day no matter how weird the mod is, it's just people gawking at pixels. I personally think the people who care THAT much what pixel configurations other people enjoy are more creepy than the adults who simply enjoy this stuff in private.

[Fukuro]

Every online game, or PC game in general, on the planet has nude mods and other weird crap that's not in any way officially affiliated with the game, but is still out there. That stuff doesn't actually hurt the game's image; people are familiar enough with the internet at this point to know that it's just what happens.

At the end of the day no matter how weird the mod is, it's just people gawking at pixels. I personally think the people who care THAT much what pixel configurations other people enjoy are more creepy than the adults who simply enjoy this stuff in private.

me questioning people defending lewd art of minors makes me a creep, but people straight up downplaying it and saying „it‘s just pixels“ even though it clearly depicts underaged teens is dudes „just gawking at pixels“. you are trying to make it sound so innocent with words like „pixel configuration“ eventhough exactly that is not only prohibited in game but is also illegal in a good amount of countries. are these countries creeps too? who knew that just „pixel configurations“ could bring someone in jail!
and absolutelty, if it seems to even worry the devs, which brought even yoshi p to speak up, it can be considered as problematic.

[HollowedDoll]

Imagine calling someone creepy when you're pro pedophilia

[Goji1639]

Imagine calling someone creepy when you're pro pedophilia

I'm pro people minding their own business.

I find obsessive stalkers creepy.

I'm guessing this is the wrong community to take a position against stalkers in, though.

[Jadedsins]

Imagine calling someone creepy when you're pro pedophilia

Yes because people are pro pedo because Ryne is a real person and has rights.


We have a bigger problem with Stalkers, and people who think this game is reality. That escape into it so much, that they are confused on who is real. That is the bigger problem than these pedos hurting ryne rights.



And people who say erp should not be going on. Are you new to MMORPGS? This has a long history in it. I mean when I was a kid, VTM table top games turned out to be make out sessions. When ever RPG happens, it can turn sexual. Because that is part of human nature. People need to stop acting like it is some grand evil, and using protect the kids to make these people look bad was not only silly, but is sad.

[Aniise]

Oh wow, looks like the pedo-defense-force is back in full force today. They even gained some new members.

What a time to be alive.

[Fukuro]

dude calls lewd mods of minors „just“ a hobby
classifies laws most countries follow, for a good reason, as archaic and compares them to a country‘s law about chewing gum
calls others creeps for questioning it - tries to marginalize the problem by calling it „just pixel configuration“, best of gaslighting this thread has ever seen
welp i‘m done, stay sane folks!