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  1. #21
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I find using the minors for some moral issues to be silly. For one, it is the parents jobs to teach kids right and wrong. What to do and not. So them even being online in a social settings. Second off kids keep doing this sort of thing at a younger and younger age, even when I was growing up. My best friend in middle school was active in this way. My view point is. Better for them to get kicks off in a fantasy than have life ruined.


    Point is the game is rated T for sexual themes, and all that stuff and teens are sexual. It can't be helped. It is not the community job to care about bad parenting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Hopefully something is done about the problem. I used to really enjoy role-play and yet ended up quitting as a consequence of repeated unwanted advances on both an IC and OOC front. (IC = In Character, OOC = Out Of Character).

    Worse yet, more often than not nobody involved bothered to even ask my age at the time. Which should set off all sorts of red flags.

    A lot of people have become pretty brazen about it, too. I can't look through the FFXIV hashtag on Twitter without seeing it and a number of role-players on Balmung and Mateus have explicit links in their character's search info.
    People are allowed to roleplay how they want, this attempt at policing what other people do with their own characters is pretty damn tiresome.
    People shouldn't be banned for playing the game differently than you.

    With that said unwanted advances are not okay and I've dealt with this too, including people that don't back off.
    I've actually had this happen from the same person in my Raid Roulette and everytime I told him to stop he basically was all like '' you know that you want me uwu :3 '' just constantly.
    He was basically roleplaying as some lewd catboy playboy and being really creepy and forceful about it, it wasn't cute or funny it felt really predatory.

    Obviously it's not that serious in a video game, but it's extremely frustrating and creepy to deal with.
    Not to mention incredibly cringe.
    However the reason why that should be a ban is not because it's ERP or sexual, it's because it's harassment.

    Just generally speaking policing what adults do because kids exist is toxic as all hell and I hate it.
    And the game is not kid friendly to begin with.

    The problem there isn't ERP the problem is sexual predators like how I mentioned above the problem isn't ERP either it's harassment.
    Someone can be a sexual predator and harasser to an adult too.
    I think that people have a tendency to try and shift the problem to be about something else instead of actually dealing with the actual problem.

    Just generally speaking tho adults shouldn't be ERP:ing with kids.
    If teenagers ERP with other teenagers then in all honesty I don't think that's a problem, people need to stop pretending like teenagers are asexual.
    But I think it's reasonable to separate that from actual adults.

    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    Glamour modding is one thing but what these NSFW molders do is disgusting.
    I mean that's a pretty broad thing to say.
    Like if you're going to sit here and moralize about modders making mods for adult characters for fun then quite frankly I think you just need to mind your own business.
    But if we're talking about underage characters and such then obviously it's different.

    I just think that people need to stop throwing it all into the same basket.
    It's not the same and people need to stop just generalizing and oversimplifying.
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  2. #22
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
    This isn't a matter of parenting. A parent is not at fault for letting their kid play a game where their age matches the rating. This is a matter of behaving like a normal person in front of children as per the terms of service.
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  3. #23
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    W'llayan V'huh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Well some like slimes and some like tentacles. And some like vegetables like us. Not to forget about all the tall folks that talk about wanting to eat us.



    To be fair, if you expect to enter balmung and get out there with any form of pregnancy you are delusional. It's like the moonglade goldshire of WoW. xD Known for a reason and THE erp server...
    Well I didn't know there were servers like that. I have never played WOW. This is my first MMO, so I'm still new to what servers are NSFW and not. It seems that Balmug is one of them...
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
    I think they do have to enforce it. But they have to go about it in a way where its shown they did a fair investigation. With stuff like mods, its very hard to pin down people.
    As with yoshi said, they can't install some spyware on your pc. That'll be illegal.
    Since mods are client side.
    Like the only way for SE to detect mods if they do a file check everytime we log in. Like other games do with anticheat but people HATE those because a lot of them are borderline malware that live in your pc as a virus that can take info from you.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
    It's not. Stop blaming the parents over the actions of others. It's not the kids fault nor the parents fault. The kid is just playing an adventure video/pc game. The main focus of this thread is not even that. Also the idea of you thinking it is okay that a child sees nude 'art' is a red flag.

    You obviously also don't know laws. Depictions of minors in a NSFW manner is illegal in most countries. I clearly pointed out the differences, and you refuse to acknowledge them. There is nothing reasonable about pretending it's okay to do these things. Gaming companies don't have any magical protection there.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    This isn't a matter of parenting. A parent is not at fault for letting their kid play a game where their age matches the rating. This is a matter of behaving like a normal person in front of children as per the terms of service.
    In all honesty I actually think that the rating is too low, especially after having played it again on NG+ there's so much explicit content and pretty extreme levels of sexual violence being referenced.
    The game is and always has been full of more late teen to adult content too.
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  7. #27
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    Once again, there aren't any 'ifs' or 'buts' about it. Engaging in explicit activities with a minor in either the real world or over the internet is illegal in a great many countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plushy View Post
    I also want to point out.
    Though they have been condemned to the ground even by the nsfw gpose community.
    People have taken lewd pics of khole......yes...let that sit. If you still think nsfw mods are fine. Just remember that.
    Though not REAL minors. People are basically able to make CP((sorry to upset anybody)) with nsfw mods.
    As disgusting as that is, I'd rather not compare the plight of a bunch of pixels to the abuse of an actual child. One's just grody, the other is punishable to the fullest extent of the law, and in my opinion should be punishable by death as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalPenguin View Post
    Well I didn't know there were servers like that. I have never played WOW. This is my first MMO, so I'm still new to what servers are NSFW and not. It seems that Balmug is one of them...
    Balmung and Mateus as far as i know. You can always switch to EU! We don't have such erp servers.

    But even Balmung can be relative normal, just stay as far away from the quicksand as possible. I was playing for like 2 years over there cause my BF is from NA. At some point you get used to getting messaged by complete strangers which ask for erp and are creeps. xD Not to mention that i am a lalafell...
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    Last edited by Ranaku; 08-29-2021 at 12:10 PM.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    As disgusting as that is, I'd rather not compare the plight of a bunch of pixels to the abuse of an actual child. One's just grody, the other is punishable to the fullest extent of the law, and in my opinion should be punishable by death as well.
    I agree with you.
    But just knowing its possible is a no no.
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