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    Nah. Dude is a celebrity, nothing more.

    I'd match him one-to-one on hours played in MMOs. In fact, I and many others have him beat, hands down, especially since we've been playing MMOs since the dude was eight years old. He has no 'special authority' other than that he's famous. (Checks how old Zack is. Yeah. I was right. Been playing games since before he was born, and been playing MMOs since he was - wow, look at that, I was very close - nine years old.)

    If we are going to place someone in an advisory position, why not pick from the actual top players in this game? You know, people that have been around this game for ten years or so, and around gaming in general for thirty, forty years or even more. That's a smarter and more logical way to get a productive human onto an advisory board.

    Again, he's just a celebrity. It doesn't qualify him for anything at all. No one here has any idea of how he behaves on a 'task force' or how he would work in an office environment, or actually how smart the dude is, his troubleshooting and problem solving skills, his creativity, etc. His sole qualification is that he played a crapton of WoW, broadcast it, and now plays a crapton of FF.

    He's just the 2021 version of a talking head. That's it and that's all. In 1987, many of us were doing exactly what he is doing, except people didn't film and broadcast it back then. All we did is put our quarters up on the machine, say "next", and melt back into the crowd while watching someone destroy Space Harrier for an hour. Watching someone else play games is nothing special, nor is it remotely new. Only the broadcast element is new.

    People kinda lose their head over celebrities and elevate them to places they don't belong. It's why we really care what famous actors and actresses have to say about socio-political issues ... as if they have any more expertise than the next person. It's definitely part of why we regularly elect them to major political office. It's utter insanity; we don't send Tom Cruise to rescue actual hostages or recover actual stolen property, now do we? Nah, that would be a bit over the crazy-line, even for us.

    But a dude that plays video games for a living, absolutely, I am sure he knows his way around Unity or Godot or other game development tools that I won't even pretend to be aware of. I am sure Zack knows 'em tho. LMAO.

    I've met many, many celebrities over the years (lived/worked in or near Hollywood most of my life) and let me tell you... they ain't any better than regular Joes and Janes that might walk through the door. In fact, quite often they are worse, due to the size of their heads and the fact that they think they're better than others.

    Ain't saying Zack is like this; I don't know him so I couldn't say. I can say, though, that I've had many an illusion shattered by a celebrity I loved turning out to be an absolute douchebag. I certainly wouldn't 'recommend' any of them for a particular job or another without first actually knowing the person (outside of their job) so I could make a decent estimate of how good they are for the position. You can't possibly make that decision off of a celebrity's broadcast product.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-29-2021 at 10:44 PM. Reason: Expand on my point. Clean-up.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Even if they wanted to hire him, doubt they would want to match his current income, the guy makes something 1/2 mil a year from Twitch revenue alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    He probably would do it for free. They really need his help especially since he's a long-time MMO veteran and has great insight into MMO design. He can help Square Enix see any potential blind spots in their new systems.
    Hell no. He is not smart as it may look. He opinions are safe 8n the mid bs. He started to hate on blizzard when it started to get big to do so. He jumped to ff14 as it was the popular move to do. I don't say it's wrong just not that smart.
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    Even though I find the fellow amusing, no. What they should do is put out a survey at the end of each expansion asking the players how they rank different parts of the game, and if they would like more or less of some content. Also throwing in some question about certain features people on the forum have asked about to see if the general playerbase want it or not.
    And to make people take the survey, throw them a mount or something like that and I am sure most would take it.

    A question could be: Did you do the relic this expansion: yes/no, followed by If yes rank the parts of doing the relic, if no why not with some options and a write in.
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    the guy ragged on FFXIV for years as a weeb game filled with catgirls while playing a cartoon game filled with green people and gargantuan belt buckles, only came here to make money.

    can he play an mmo, yes, so can most of us.

    does that make him uber qualified to be an adviser? nope.

    I know his fans think he can walk on water, cure the sick and bring back the dead, but he's not all that special
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    He played the same game for 15+ years, he's not experienced with anything outside of WoW.

    So no.
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    Asmongold seems particularly awful about learning anything on his own time, too. He’s still asking ARR-tier questions, then gets frustrated when he doesn’t understand the answers chat gives him.

    And he doesn’t seem to be looking them up again later, because he’ll ask them again.

    An advisor would need to be willing to research answers that are readily available before forming a useful opinion, and I don’t think we’re there with Asmon just yet. Still perfectly fine to give feedback, with the understanding it might go straight to trash if he’s suggesting something that’s outside his very limited experience.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 08-30-2021 at 09:29 AM.

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    I have to say I'm very disappointed at the standards of troll threads lately, this one is a 2/10 at best. I remember the good old days when a troll would enrage a forum while making what to others looked like a legitimate post. It was subtle, it was clever, it took social skills to pull off. This is so obviously trolling It barely deserves be called trolling.
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    If any dev team needs Asmon's advice it's Blizzard. WoW is in a horrendous state because they actively ignore feedback for too long and act upon it when it's too late. FFXIV was doing just fine without Asmon. Is it perfect? No, but is any game?

    I think if SE were to seek out advice for FFXIV they should look at someone who does a lot of pvp because that is currently the game's biggest weakness. It isn't given enough attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    If any dev team needs Asmon's advice it's Blizzard. WoW is in a horrendous state because they actively ignore feedback for too long and act upon it when it's too late. FFXIV was doing just fine without Asmon. Is it perfect? No, but is any game?
    After Patch 9.1.5 it seems more like a management problem for me. Patch 9.1.5 shows the devs know exactly what they have to do to and where the real pain points are. But something was holding them back.

    Cheers
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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 08-30-2021 at 03:53 PM.

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