If FFXVII is a new online game... would you move inmediately?

[ReynTime]

People who fall for the spaghetti code apologism are in for a rude awakening if they ever make another MMO.

Almost every commercial AAA game has "spaghetti code". Specially online games.

[Fabbro]

FFXI was online.
FFXIV is online.
So FFXVII should be the next MMORPG.

If Yoshi-P launch a new FF online game (in 2023) and Endwalkers is the last expansion... what would you do?

1. You'd move inmediately?
2. You'd keep playing FFXIV for a while?
3. You'd play both if can have a discount for the pack?
4. You'd play both no matter what?

If it was (much more) like FFXI than FFXIV, yes.

[Fabbro]

Which is ironic, because style over substance has been embraced by XIV since late Heavensward.

Quire unfortunately really.

[Fabbro]

I would. Regardless of how it turned out. But ideally it would be a return to a more harsh and unforgiving exploration style open world like XI was. And they could keep the immediate gratification theme park MMO in XIV. That way, both player bases win. Honestly I long for some adventure and danger in an open world MMO that I just don’t get in XIV. Like I have never felt I need to watch out or be on guard while traveling in XIV. Not once. And the teleportation stuff makes it so I never have to touch most zones either. Everything is instanced… which would be okay if the groups at least had to be together and travel to the instance entrance zone.

But nope, as it is I never even see my static or my friends in the world because we just queue for the raid together, and as soon as it’s over we don’t travel back together or see each other. We just apear back in our house or Limsa or whatever.

And sure it’s convenient, or we could “force” a social gathering outside or make them up because we can. But it’s weird because we have no reason to… like sometimes the best friendships or experiences come from doing something out of necessity.

Take Sea of Thieves for example, like wow… I mean the journey is more than half the experience and it is gorgeous to look at the scenery. But that’s not why we do it, we don’t just go out and look at stuff, we’re on our way to dig something up or complete a quest… and if we could teleport to islands we’ve visited before we would just do that instead. And quit shortly after cuz it gets boring.

Making places dangerous/long to get to is not a disrespect of a players time. Not if the world is carefully and beautifully crafted so it’s meant to be appreciated.

I like XIV, and love SE, but i hope the next MMO doesn’t feel as claustrophobic as XIV does.

THIS. 100% agreed. FFXIV feels too closed and claustrophobic in most of it's content.

[Fabbro]

TBH I would go back to XI. Then just wait and see.

Wish XI was more active and had more new players incoming still. Also a modernization of FFXI would be really welcome, specially in terms of interface and controls, without changing the core gameplay.

[Fabbro]

Between XI and XIV, XI is clearly the one that's aging the worst. So I definitely agree with you. Keep XIV going, it's popular and it will be successful for a while. But make a newer updated iteration of an entry closer to XI than XIV for people who wanted something like XI but not as clunky/PS2-like graphics.

XI players really deserve some love. Least SE could do is a modernization of the game's interface and controls and integrate the HD mod into the game.

[Fabbro]

This is actually an interesting question to me. XI continues because of a lot of reasons, and even now I would probably play it on the side if time allowed. Even as much as things have been sped up in XI, it still has a lot of very long-term goals you can engage in. XIV is a much different critter though. Strictly theme-parky. At the point where all story content is done, and all the fights cleared at least once for the hell of it, I would have no reason to keep playing this game in the face of a fresh FF MMO.

This is the thing: FFXIV feels too easy, too on rails, too theme parky and downright claustrophobic most of the time, unfortunately. FFXI was a better MMO experience in it's core, it just needs small modernization in terms of interface, controls and graphics specially and maybe with the addition of a better quest log and some more interesting side quests to be done. FFXI players are loyal and SE would do well to give them more attention both in FFXI and in FFXIV, FFXIV should be more like FFXI in every single way.

[Fabbro]

That would be 4 MMOs though. FFXI would have to be killed off. Many people forget that SE does the Dragon Quest MMO which is not released in the West.

Really all we need for FFXIV is a engine update which is slated for 7.0/8.0

How is this DragonQuest MMO and when was it launched, please? They plan to release it in the west anytime soon? Thanks for the info.

[Fabbro]

I would say yes, but If the next FF MMO is exactly like FFXIV, with the homogenized jobs, the linear dungeons, boring combat rotations, that would definitely be a no for me.

I started to play FFXI two years ago for this exact reason, because its notthing like FFXIV and its really fun

I hope the next FF MMO is very different from ffxiv, more strategy combat and less mind numbling button smashing

I'm curious: how is the current FFXI community? Is it getting new players?

PS: I know this is not the place, but please, I'm thinking about going back to FFXI soon, which mods (HD texture pack, interface, etc.) you recommend? Thank you very much.

[kiagenwa]

I'm curious: how is the current FFXI community? Is it getting new players?

PS: I know this is not the place, but please, I'm thinking about going back to FFXI soon, which mods (HD texture pack, interface, etc.) you recommend? Thank you very much.

Bro you can do multiple quote in one reply
Also, despite how it is FFXIV is selling well. So the future MMO might go in the same direction.

Yesterday Youtube recommended me a livecam in FFXI from official channel in a town... there doesn't seem to be a lot of ppl?