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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    Where's the fun in walking in the shoes of some inconsequential grunt?
    Didn't say an inconsequential grunt. Just not a character with such a defined identity, limiting my own ability to shape the character. I don't find much fun in playing someone else's idea of a character.

    Beyond that, some people play MMOs for the fact that they can RP out going on adventures with their friends (in a similar fashion to D&D etc.), without being the centre of attention in every major plot, so I can't really agree with the point underlying your question. There isn't one singular form of fun when it comes to MMOs or RPGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Didn't say an inconsequential grunt. Just not a character with such a defined identity, limiting my own ability to shape the character. I don't find much fun in playing someone else's idea of a character.

    Beyond that, some people play MMOs for the fact that they can RP out going on adventures with their friends (in a similar fashion to D&D etc.), without being the centre of attention in every major plot, so I can't really agree with the point underlying your question. There isn't one singular form of fun when it comes to MMOs or RPGs.
    I think that's more of a problem with FFXIV's story being linear, with a lack of RPG elements. Nothing to do really with our character being the focus of said story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    I think that's more of a problem with FFXIV's story being linear, with a lack of RPG elements. Nothing to do really with our character being the focus of said story.
    I don't disagree really, but the issue you run into IMO is that MMOs which place such a focus require the linearity in order to be able to maintain it, due to the increased work load (as well as issues about which outcome is canon or not as the world moves forward) it entails. Faction-based MMOs (WoW, SWTOR, WAR etc.) tend to be a bit different because you're then tweaking the story a bit for each faction, and I don't think it's an accident that these tend to be the MMOs I enjoy most story-wise. If an MMO could devote the resources to both a story focus and a reasonable degree of non-linearity I'd agree with your point but I think it's difficult to disentangle them in practice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    It's hard to say if I'd even theoretically move considering we have no info about what their next MMO could even be like.

    However, I highly doubt that FF17 will be an MMO considering the disinterest SQEX has shown in creating and supporting 4 MMOs at once and creating more competition for themselves, especially since they've very interested in putting more support into FF14 since it's got so much wind in its sails.
    Seeing how different what Yoshi has in mind for a future MMO is to XIV, XI and I imagine their DQ MMO, I don't think it'd even compete for the same type of player. Perhaps for their internal resources but they are capable of running multiple concurrent projects.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuragi_ View Post
    I'm absolutely sure they'd much more quickly announce a remake of the engine of XIV than make another one. Or do this just the same and rename it whatever new numbered FF it would be.
    Certainly for an MMO of XIV's type, I'd agree - and they do seem to be looking into overhauling the engine. Granted, his words are non-committal, but it's much more positive about it than they've been in the past, coupled with this about the textures - a project they previously said would be highly costly.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 08-29-2021 at 08:10 AM.
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    I mean, if the next Final Fantasy MMORPG is already out, I'm guessing by that point FFXIV has been receiving minimal content updates if any. I would hope Yoshi-P and the rest of the team would be the ones working on the new game, since not only are they the MMO dream team but just imagine what they could do when they're not eternally bogged down by a cursed engine left behind by a previous administration. Of course I love FFXIV and would miss it, but you can bet all the gil in the world that I want in on that new hotness from minute one!
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    I would say yes, but If the next FF MMO is exactly like FFXIV, with the homogenized jobs, the linear dungeons, boring combat rotations, that would definitely be a no for me.

    I started to play FFXI two years ago for this exact reason, because its notthing like FFXIV and its really fun

    I hope the next FF MMO is very different from ffxiv, more strategy combat and less mind numbling button smashing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    I would say yes, but If the next FF MMO is exactly like FFXIV, with the homogenized jobs, the linear dungeons, boring combat rotations, that would definitely be a no for me.

    I started to play FFXI two years ago for this exact reason, because its notthing like FFXIV and its really fun

    I hope the next FF MMO is very different from ffxiv, more strategy combat and less mind numbling button smashing
    I'm curious: how is the current FFXI community? Is it getting new players?

    PS: I know this is not the place, but please, I'm thinking about going back to FFXI soon, which mods (HD texture pack, interface, etc.) you recommend? Thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbro View Post
    I'm curious: how is the current FFXI community? Is it getting new players?

    PS: I know this is not the place, but please, I'm thinking about going back to FFXI soon, which mods (HD texture pack, interface, etc.) you recommend? Thank you very much.
    Bro you can do multiple quote in one reply
    Also, despite how it is FFXIV is selling well. So the future MMO might go in the same direction.

    Yesterday Youtube recommended me a livecam in FFXI from official channel in a town... there doesn't seem to be a lot of ppl?
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    I would probably play it but I will certainly not quit 14 for it.
    Thing is...it will probably be more "action oriented" instead of using hotbars etc. It is the way the FF franchise is elvolving towards, and the MMO genre as well. And I will need to see if they can make a satisfying action game in an MMO setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    I would probably play it but I will certainly not quit 14 for it.
    Thing is...it will probably be more "action oriented" instead of using hotbars etc. It is the way the FF franchise is elvolving towards, and the MMO genre as well. And I will need to see if they can make a satisfying action game in an MMO setting.
    This is exactly why, realistically, I don't expect to play another MMORPG once I'm done with XIV.

    It's really unfortunate no company of SE's size will bother investing in another such game if its only going to appeal to a niche audience like myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    This is exactly why, realistically, I don't expect to play another MMORPG once I'm done with XIV.

    It's really unfortunate no company of SE's size will bother investing in another such game if its only going to appeal to a niche audience like myself.
    There's a few here and there trying to revive the classic MMO formula (Pantheon, AOC etc.), but it remains to be seen how well they do. Certainly for SE, based on what Yoshi has said before (here and here), he does seem to think any future MMO would be more in the direction of an action-based, lobby style game.
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