Even the sale prices in the store are prohibitively expensive.

[DBriggs304]

Literally the same folks make a post like this everytime they put out items in the store.

[Ranaku]

Uh I'll gladly be happy to just have any sale on any cosmetics. This is the only sale I've seen (Since I've been playing for a few months) that has almost the whole Mog shop being on sale. I was waiting for a sale on the cosmetics for the Lightning look. Looks like I may actually bite and get it

Even with the costume being at full price. I've seen costumes on games were it's $50+ just for one costume.

They put everything on sale every year when the rising hits. Since it's the XIV anniversary event. ^^ Thought that would be nice to know.

[Catwho]

To be fair the amount of stuff builds up over the years.

One reason the holiday items items seem so extensive is because they were available, for free, during the seasonal event where they were introduced. They were included with the sub price at the time they were released. Since SE can't go back and retroactively charge you a sub price just to let you do an event, having the items on the Mogstation is a compromise, with the alternative keeping them exclusive to players who got them when they were first released.

[Kes13a]

One reason the holiday items items seem so extensive is because they were available, for free, during the seasonal event where they were introduced. They were included with the sub price at the time they were released. Since SE can't go back and retroactively charge you a sub price just to let you do an event, having the items on the Mogstation is a compromise, with the alternative keeping them exclusive to players who got them when they were first released.

especially since...
1. people complain if the items are repeated for the next years event
2. people complain if they can no longer get the items because the event is over
3. people just complain

[Nethereal]

and now that my stalkers have found this thread we have...

I'm going to humor you here since it's genuinely funny to me for now.

This is a small community, if we were to go relative to scale we would be next door neighbors in an apartment complex. Neighbors get reputations very easily.

Starting a thread is the equivalent of having a open door public party.
Now when I come into your party to have fun only to see a whole bunch of cocaine being done off hookers and people smoking weed like middle schoolers drink monster.
You're going to get a reputation of having druggy parties. Now lets take it a step further, your reputation would precede you if people outside of our apartment complex started coming to your parties.
After that for someone to be a stalker they would have to be waiting outside the apartment building/door for you to come outside, be leaving notes consistently asking when the next party(thread) is, calling you, and generally just being creepy and unpleasant. If you weren't interacting in a public space shared by many it's possible you could have a stalker but you aren't, and you don't.

But when one of your neighbors comes home to see the door open again because you're having another party(thread), they're not stalkers because they decided to gossip amongst themselves they just have eyes and ears and they know what you do and what you're known for.

If you don't want to have a bad reputation with your neighbors, be a better neighbor. Being in denial isn't going to make it go away. It is funny though.
Hopefully you don't have roommates because I would hate to be accused of being a "stalker", or a "creep" for knowing what shows you watch on the tv in the living room.

[kaynide]

Clearly you've never been to Disneyland or you'd know how often people complain about the price of food and drink when they get inside.

One man’s greedy is another man’s “eh, not that bad”. I’m sorry you feel the way you do, but this is a you issue.

SE owns the shop, they set the prices. Maybe you feel it’s too expensive, but the number of lunar whales I see regularly says a lotta people don’t.

I mean, imagine going to Disneyland and whining to the crowd around you about the price of their bottled water because you already paid the entry ticket price. You don’t have to like it, and indeed most people probably don’t, but you also don’t have to buy the bottled water for 5 bucks.

Reading comprehension. People do not complain typically go full Karen and complain to complete strangers in a crowd. Though evidence suggests that you might go full Karen and thus think this is indeed typical behavior in your brain.

[Kozh]

I think the OP is just upset that the responses here pretty much mirror their previous post on the subject.

namely, they are optional items, and they are under zero obligation to buy them to play the game. the fact that they exist, and arent free, seems offensive. the fact that a company, wants to make money is problematic. and anyone... ANYONE who disagrees with them is some kind of moron who is rubbing Jamie's face in their money surplus instead of someone who just has a different opinion.

No it's annoying because people lack emphaty. Since we agree that expensive is subjective, then we also acknowledged that to some people the discount price is still expensive right? But instead of going "it's not expensive for me, but I can see your point/sorry to hear it's expensive for you", some people here just straight up go "it's optional reeee!!" "just stop being poor lol".

And op has the point. It is once in a year discount, yet they don't even give us a 50% sale.

Companies making money isn't problematic, but at some point it's just blatantly a cash grab dickmove. And if you know how predatory SE is with their IP but still won't acknowledge it happens in ffxiv to some extent, then that's on you.

[Iscah]

But instead of going "it's not expensive for me, but I can see your point/sorry to hear it's expensive for you", some people here just straight up go "it's optional reeee!!" "just stop being poor lol".

Maybe they would have shown agreement and sympathy, once upon a time. But after several rounds of the OP starting threads saying "it's expensive reeee!!", the response "it's optional reeee!!" is really all the attention the newest version of the same rant deserves.

[DBriggs304]

No it's annoying because people lack emphaty. Since we agree that expensive is subjective, then we also acknowledged that to some people the discount price is still expensive right? But instead of going "it's not expensive for me, but I can see your point/sorry to hear it's expensive for you", some people here just straight up go "it's optional reeee!!" "just stop being poor lol".

And op has the point. It is once in a year discount, yet they don't even give us a 50% sale.

Companies making money isn't problematic, but at some point it's just blatantly a cash grab dickmove. And if you know how predatory SE is with their IP but still won't acknowledge it happens in ffxiv to some extent, then that's on you.

Empathy, sympathy, and understanding vacate the premises when someone is telling others that they

1. Careless how to spend THEIR money.
2. Have too much of it.

At that point, it's not about discussion, especially when you're known for making a thread like this everytime. Why should people feel bad about buying something they want and they enjoy AND that THEY don't feel is too expensive?

And while focusing on Financials, I would point out that this game or any other is NOT a necessity...so obviously, they can afford it themselves...or can they?

Perhaps people who buy from the store aren't the actual ones who are "Careless with their money"

[Kes13a]

No it's annoying because people lack emphaty. Since we agree that expensive is subjective, then we also acknowledged that to some people the discount price is still expensive right? But instead of going "it's not expensive for me, but I can see your point/sorry to hear it's expensive for you", some people here just straight up go "it's optional reeee!!" "just stop being poor lol".

And op has the point. It is once in a year discount, yet they don't even give us a 50% sale.

Companies making money isn't problematic, but at some point it's just blatantly a cash grab dickmove. And if you know how predatory SE is with their IP but still won't acknowledge it happens in ffxiv to some extent, then that's on you.

I have no problem with empathy, to a point. endless complaining does not require empathy. in their first thread on this very same topic, much was said along the lines of "you have a point, sorry its expensive in your thinking, here's what you can try to do to offset that" to which they got upset because the company shills were after them and being stalkers. its a common theme.

the simple facts are. any business is in the business of making money. its capitalism plain and simple. most companies with an IP, and SE is no exception, will pump out merchandise for money. no one disagrees with that.

cashgrab dick move or not, none of the items are a requirement to "win" the game.

the OP's issue is the fact they charge at all. unless their opinion has changed in the last year, and I see no sign it has, the fact that SE makes any money off of anything appears to be the problem. and anyone that disagrees with that is, a stalker, shill, loser or whatever other nifty new names they have discovered in the last year.

so, tell me what empathy is needed here?