Catching up DoL/H in "current levels?"

[Omedon]

My previous stint in the game, during a lull in WoW in late BFA time (so still during shadowbringers), I was blessed with the "road to 70," which I used to get every crafting and gathering job from 1-70 once my at the time main job had progressed as far as the story was at the time.

The firmament was invaluable for the home stretch, but I think I kinda screwed myself by basically dropping all other forms of progression (mostly gear) that weren't involved with getting me *TO* 70.

But now that I'm fixing to likely become a FFXIV lifer, I'm kind of at a loss at how to pick up for the 70-80 game.

For starters, having leaned heavily on poetics in my DoW/M "joboholism," my first question is whether there is a poetics-like system to outfit my 70 DoH/L jobs with the same ease.

If I'm being honest, I'm really only interested in maintaining cheap, roaming repairs, so I'm not really interested in engaging with like... time gated materials to "make a thing to make a thing" to craft my gear if I can avoid it. Is there not a currency system I can chase while getting XP?

Beyond that, what are the reliable sources of XP in this level range? Should I just grab a pickaxe and hit rocks to burn rest XP? Is the firmament still useful?

Thanks for your wisdom, once again, FFXIV community!

[Somnolence]

You can still use Ishgard to get them all to 80, the final tier can be done with gil gear: https://ffxivgillionaire.com/crafter-leveling-guide/

I personally did not want to bother with scrip gear. To get white scrip gear you need to grind interim gear to step up from 70. So I just bought left side Aesthetes and crafted the rest, aesthetes gear with melds is enough to craft food/potions/neo-ishgardian gear and just chill until expansion. With server visit you can save quite a bit by server hoping to get cheapest items.

[MicahZerrshia]

I always used scrip gear because its insanely easy to get, you can literally get the whole set in less than an hour, and it will last the full 10 lvls from 60 to 70 then again to 80 and I am cheap as they come and do not like spending my precious precious gil on something as throwaway as crafting gear. Even at max level they are fantastic for regular crafting. You only really need melded gear if you are a master crafter/gatherer. Plus the custom deliveries will get you a large chunk of scrips each week. I use them to outfit myself at max level and outfit my gathering retainers since it puts them well over the max they need.

Ishgard is still viable but I cannot comment on it too much since I was all maxed out before that began, but if you are not going the Ishgard route you also only need to get quality to around 15-20% to get enough exp to make any quality worthwhile. Anything more is too time consuming and usually cuts into your exp per hour.

Ocean fishing is likely the fastest way to do fishing but to be fair (to be fair) fishing is the fastest thing to level in the game, even with just regular fishing, outside of maybe blue mage.

Also never under estimate grand company turn ins. Esp hq turn ins which give you twice the exp. Its once a day, the items can be bought off the market board so you don't even need to make or gather them yourself (some items are insanely cheap, others not so much), and can easily get you at least 1 lvl per hq turn in. Plus you get gc seals which you can turn into gil by selling things like Coke or Potash. Which, if you are in an fc with housing, are highly valuable for groups working on airships and submersibles so your fc leader will love you .

[TaleraRistain]

Yes there is a system. It rewards scrips. You can buy sets of gear that will be perfectly fine for basic uses with it. It's based on both DoH and DoL side on collectibles.

Some other things that can help level that Micah didn't mention are Custom Deliveries (which also give you scrips), levequests, and the tradeskill beast tribes.

[Omedon]

Yes there is a system. It rewards scrips. You can buy sets of gear that will be perfectly fine for basic uses with it. It's based on both DoH and DoL side on collectibles.

Some other things that can help level that Micah didn't mention are Custom Deliveries (which also give you scrips), levequests, and the tradeskill beast tribes.

I looked into it a bit tonight but I didn't see where I can just keep grinding scrips after the custom deliveries are, I assume, expended for the day/week. I've known *of* scrips for a long time but I've never interacted with them before. Now that I have all of both disciple types at 70 it shouldn't be too hard to get the requisite two sets of gear (and tools of course) to begin cranking out stuff for the firmament... which is looking a lot more healthy since last I was there, I might add!

[Juun]

I looked into it a bit tonight but I didn't see where I can just keep grinding scrips after the custom deliveries are, I assume, expended for the day/week. I've known *of* scrips for a long time but I've never interacted with them before. Now that I have all of both disciple types at 70 it shouldn't be too hard to get the requisite two sets of gear (and tools of course) to begin cranking out stuff for the firmament... which is looking a lot more healthy since last I was there, I might add!

Ocean fishing and Unspoiled Nodes is how I got gatherer scripts.

The crafting scripts either look for a cheap turn in at the collectable appraiser or do one of the friendship quests in the crystarium.

[Illmaeran]

I've been smashing through my DoH/DoL levels to get from high 50s to 70 lately and have found Levequests and Collectible turn ins to be the best way. Custom Deliveries and GC supply quests are fantastic for daily/weekly bursts of XP, but if you want to really bash the levels out go with Leves and Collectibles. I'd suggest going through the available Leves and your Collectible list to figure out which ones require the fewest number of mats; not quantity, number, and stick with those. An example of a good Leve is Cottonseed Oil; it's a 3x turn-in that requires a very small amount of materials, so you get 3x the XP per Leve with a small investment of time.

I used Leves to get to the level required for the easy Collectible turn-ins then mass-produced them for XP and Scrips to get gear and books for future levels. This was by far the best way for me to both level and gear up at the same time as it didn't cost any Gil; just time spent gathering and mashing a mass-production macro.

Grinding out a load of raw materials on your BTN/MIN to support the Leve/Collectible push is a fantastic way to get levels on your DoL; I'm currently in the mid-upper 70s on mine by doing all my own gathering to level all my DoH and I've hardly touched ShB content except for two days' worth of GC supply quests on BTN/MIN.


Your mileage may vary; I realize I'm (possibly) one of the few who actually enjoys the mindlessness of <start Conehead voice> Gathering Mass Quantities </end voice> to avoid the MB while crafting higher quantities of easy stuff rather than traveling all over the place to get smaller quantities of more items to craft more intricate/difficult things. Food and Company Engineering Manuals help a lot here too.

Summary: do your GC dailies, Custom Delivery weeklies, easy Leves until you hit an easy Collectible tier, then mass-produce for those lovely scrips and sweet, sweet, XP.

[kaynide]

I never really did the Rowena scrips delivery stuff as it always felt cumbersome to me, and I could never do that well without putting in a lot of money for gear/materia (this was 3.0 era).

Personally I leveled my DoH and DoL exclusively doing custom deliveries and leves. 100 leves go a long way. I forget what guides I used but there are solid ones out there probably much more up to date than when I did it.

Of course I was never in some kinda rush to level…so depending on your timeline, might need to persue expensive ways.

[TaleraRistain]

I looked into it a bit tonight but I didn't see where I can just keep grinding scrips after the custom deliveries are, I assume, expended for the day/week. I've known *of* scrips for a long time but I've never interacted with them before. Now that I have all of both disciple types at 70 it shouldn't be too hard to get the requisite two sets of gear (and tools of course) to begin cranking out stuff for the firmament... which is looking a lot more healthy since last I was there, I might add!

I've never tried starting in (if you said 70 that must be ShB) so I'm not sure if you can get the quest there or not, but there is a quest to unlock collectibles. Check around Mor Dhona. There are scrip folks there next to poetics area.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Surprised no one's mentioned it yet, but: for DoL from 70, the Qitari beast tribe in Rak'tikka, and for DoH, the Dwarf beast tribe starting in Kholusia. Should be most of a level each day, plus the other rewards for grinding them out.