10k heal on a 60 second cooldown. Really Devs?

[SweetPete]

After getting my dancer to max item level. Granted not BiS but still wouldn’t make a lick of difference. Item level 530, curing waltz heals for only 10k non Crit on a 60 second cooldown is ridiculous. Why do we even have it? You not always gonna be near your dance partner for the double affect. You can’t survive an aoe with that. What were the devs thinking? Hopefully we get another charge at least or buff the potency higher to match the long cooldown.

[CKNovel]

Did you perhaps expected a cure III?

DNC is a DPS, not a healer or a Blue mage. Healing abilities on other role than Healers are meant to complete the survivability of the party, not replace it.
If it could heal half the health of your party it would be too strong.

[Hoehenflug]

Did you perhaps expected a cure III?

DNC is a DPS, not a healer or a Blue mage. Healing abilities on other role than Healers are meant to complete the survivability of the party, not replace it.
If it could heal half the health of your party it would be too strong.

I disagree. A strong heal wouldn't impact anything other than fun anyway. I love supporting my healers during dungeons. Especially with an inexperienced group, where dancers feel like sad clowns from my limited experience.

[Stormcaster]

Expecting to heal enough to survive an AoE on a DPS, really player?

Healing for potentially 600 Cure Potency on the whole party as an oGCD is already very strong for a DPS healing skill

[RicaRuin]

I disagree. A strong heal wouldn't impact anything other than fun anyway. I love supporting my healers during dungeons. Especially with an inexperienced group, where dancers feel like sad clowns from my limited experience.

A strong heal on just one DPS would absolutely impact the balance of the game, as that one job would have so much more utility than others. Raids wouldn't accept any other Ranged because of that.

[ssunny2008]

A strong heal on just one DPS would absolutely impact the balance of the game, as that one job would have so much more utility than others. Raids wouldn't accept any other Ranged because of that.

Imagine we would have more and better mechanics which even force DPS too survive on its own, more than just one boss at once and ofcourse any jobs with more raid or selfish utilities to use. But no, we´ve to avoid AOE´s and if just one single person fails, we gonna wipe.

Balancing doesn´t mean fun or having an impact on the gameplay. Bard for example has a cleanse and how many fights in the past spreaded debuffs? E8s... and how many Bards got prefered there? None. (And DNC is way too common with SAM anyway, but because of unbalanced DPS and not utility.)

There have already been some 'no healer' Savage clears, not to mention the recent solo heal clear of TEA.
E4S for was cleared (when it was current content!) with a Paladin, Warrior, Dancer and 5 Summoners.
That shouldn't really be possible, and it completely invalidates the healer role. So when that's posible as it is, with the already limited healing capabilities of those DPS classes... why on earth would you expect more?

It just shows, that a lot of stuff is going wrong with the casualization of the game and its raid design.

[Seraphor]

It just shows, that a lot of stuff is going wrong with the casualization of the game and its raid design.

This isn't a new thing. Summoners used to be able to tank with Titan Egi. You could do Ramuh EX without a tank.
The game as a whole is getting progressively more balanced and removing more cheese strats like this, it's not a downhill trend.

[SweetPete]

A strong heal on just one DPS would absolutely impact the balance of the game, as that one job would have so much more utility than others. Raids wouldn't accept any other Ranged because of that.

Your comment makes no sense at all. Dancer doesn't have the damage a machinist does nor aoe song 100% uptime utility as a bard. A stronger heal will not impact the ranged role. Come on now lol.

[Eclipse12187]

Entire group stacked up for aoe heals, curing waltz from both the dancer and their partner crits healing the entire group for 40k, my assize comes off cooldown, extra 40k healing. Oh look that healed the entirety of a raidwide lemme just glare for another 2 minutes before the next stack raidwide.

[Stormcaster]

I do not expect a cure III. Your argument is invalid because Paladin has a heal and so does red mage and they are a tank and dps. Dancer is a dps/buffer job. I am not even asking for a spam heal but just a bit more powerful heal to equate the long cooldown. If healers die which they do often and I am doing well you think I should just die because they did? I am not even talking about savage and tea. Just regular raids like the nier ones. Both healers die and other alliance healers/rezzers are maybe a little to busy to help rez my healers. You saying I need to just die to an aoe because my self heal is way to weak. Come on, use your head.

Yes exactly. All your healers died so you're gonna die to the next AoE. That's normal. You died to the AoE because healers weren't healing you which is because they died.

Your comment makes no sense at all. Dancer doesn't have the damage a machinist does nor aoe song 100% uptime utility as a bard. A stronger heal will not impact the ranged role. Come on now lol.

MCH and BRD also don't have
- 100% uptime one party member buff
- Burst Crit and DH buff
- major party buff

And it's already the most popular choice among the three. And now you're saying it has to be able to heal enough to withstand an AoE, without having to stack with your dance partner, every 60 seconds. Wow.