Increasing number of players using 3rd party tools

[PredatoryCatgirl]

It works for tanks and only tanks, melee dps got more than that sure.

Honestly, I can see it for tanks. At least the ones I've played significantly. WAR would need an extra button for its alternate "3" but GNB would be fine.

[Deceptus]

And dont say that you do NEVER drop the 1-2-3, it would be a blatant lie.

With the added leeway they introduced it makes it REALLY hard to drop it. Its something like 12-15 seconds.

[Izscha]

With the added leeway they introduced it makes it REALLY hard to drop it. Its something like 12-15 seconds.

It was more about how one can't be perfect all the time and after hours and hours of trying you can drop it and it fucks ur whole rotation timing, that's not that uncommon.
Obviously you can have 99 % of the time doing it right, but even something as dumb as 1-2-3 you can missinput or tought you'll need something else and press the wrong key.
If it's just 1 1 1 1 1 1 you dont have to worry about it, so you have and advantage on others hence the cheating part, the moment you gain an advantage on others using tools it's cheating to my eyes.

If some do really need it something like i talked earlier i would not mind, you make a 111 button for ppl that dont want to press anything else BUT you loose potency on each part since it's easier, or you can do the regular way and have all the potency on each different keys so you reward ppl using the harder way.

[technole]

The hard lock of not being able to change markers in-combat was more of a loss to the general player base than the raiders. Most of the time people used it in a way of pointing out 'go here' in the middle of mechanics or what will be the safe spot we should move next to for newer players.

It's no different than back in the days of T9S. I had the down time during mechanics to look at the dragons and move my mouse to place the safe spots for divedomb markers. Players adjusted since with UCoB standard markers. Nonetheless, it was a dumb move to hard lock them because here we are today and it really hadn't changed anything from a prog raiding mindset, nor it does for TEA.

[FusiaRain]

Look I know noone wants to hear this. However I am going to say it regardless.

You ever think that people choice to use this 3rd party software that for most part is harmless. You can't blame everyone for what few use a tool for.

People overall will always use 3rd party things and mods. You know what who gives a ..... They arent dubing items, hacking gil or hacking at all.

I'm sorry but if your going to say a meter makes people toxic... Then dont add pvp to the same thing that wants to avoid "Elite Toxics" then why would you support things that are known for making people toxic?

I'm sorry but people need to open their eyes to the truth and stop being blind sided by admiration. To many hypocrisy in this universe (game). It is really sad when people halfly follows what they say or believe.

[Eris4494]

That explains how once when helped spawn a S rank it was dead before we could get to it. Because some how huge group just spawned there and killed it before we even did shout for it. One that was by it said they never sent any tells to any. But all of then knew right where it was. Ones using third party tools should be permanently banned. Pretty sure it's against TOS.

[KageTokage]

That explains how once when helped spawn a S rank it was dead before we could get to it. Because some how huge group just spawned there and killed it before we even did shout for it. One that was by it said they never sent any tells to any. But all of then knew right where it was. Ones using third party tools should be permanently banned. Pretty sure it's against TOS.

It really bothers me that they don't seem to have caught onto third party programs being an issue since the earliest days of hunt marks being a thing.

The sole equalizer they implemented to put normal players closer to app users was the S rank notification, but it doesn't change the fact that you almost never can spawn something without the entire data center knowing it's there immediately, nor does it keep said people from melting the hunt before you can even locate it

I think the single best thing they could do is simply make it so there's a delay of maybe five minutes between a S rank spawning and it actually becoming attackable so everyone has a reasonable amount of time to locate/relay them before they get melted.

[Niecho]

RE: Streamers using custom 3d party tool UI interface, ACT, plugins that let you tag and find mobs around the map

Just dont want this game to turn into a bloated plugin addon game like WoW.

It's already there sadly. I know many have reported streamers for using these in their streams-- right there plain as day for all to see, but Square Enix did nothing. It's frustrating because Yoshi P's team clearly stated that it is against TOS. Does it bully people? No. Does it give them certain advantages with information? Yes. Is it going back on its word by not following through? Absolutely.

I have disabilities and could benefit from some of the mods which will help me see better, might have been able to have kept up with able-bodied gamers, but... I CHOOSE NOT TO USE THIRD PARTY TOOLS BECAUSE I'M CHOOSING TO OBEY THE TOS.

I left WOW after 15 years because it turned into a toxic cesspool focused on appealing to the streamers and high-end gamers, made it so that numbers, stats, gil, and money mattered more than people, community, and fair play. People see it. They aren't happy about it, and they make excuses or they chuck it up to the influx of WOW gamers and think it is only a matter of time. I feel the same way; I'm worried that not learning from history, they're doomed to see it repeat itself.

I wish Square Enix would put their foot down and say "When we said no third party mods, we meant it" and take action. If you're caught (streams, screenprints, etc) using these after midnight on this (reasonably soon) date, your account will be permanently suspended. I'm thinking "honor" is just a word tossed around for theme and costumes, that it doesn't mean anything anymore, and that's a shame because I'd prefer not to walk away from this one too.

[Conundrum]

So many self righteous snitches.

[Ramesses]

Hello, i was just wondering, i see a lot of streamers using custom 3d party tool UI interface, ACT, plugins that let you tag and find mobs around the map..
As far as i know this shouldnt be allowed.

Just dont want this game to turn into a bloated plugin addon game like WoW.

Just don't join them-- the bans are eventually coming.