Increasing number of players using 3rd party tools

[Jin-]

That's... A bit much...

I dislike the automated callouts as is, but since people can do them too (I used to call out every mechanic for the entire static during coil), I I live with that. But this is just too much.

I'm surprised all of the "doing it for the difficulty" people aren't up in arms about that.

We just set gaol priority when my group was doing WR. Didn't get past titan anyway, but it was less the gaols and more people just being unable to do mechanics in general.

Well WoW Mythic people who race and brag about the skills would be in total disarray without their precious cheat addons which Blizzard also allows. It's all about people being hypocrites. Same applies to any tool which gives you the notification on mechanics, no matter the game

[LittleImp]

That's... A bit much...

I dislike the automated callouts as is, but since people can do them too (I used to call out every mechanic for the entire static during coil), I I live with that. But this is just too much.

I'm surprised all of the "doing it for the difficulty" people aren't up in arms about that.

The public ultimate community is honestly pretty weird. A lot of the people involved aren't really 'doing it for the difficulty' so much as they are doing it for clout that comes simply with clearing; how you actually get the clear becomes of less and less import and they're more interested in simply doing it efficiently. Usage of these plugins is widely recommended in many of the ultimate pugging discords. There're even groups of people in the ultimate pug community that intentionally try to carry bad players through the fights.

[Tlachtga]

Probably the most widespread example of this would be the UWU gaol plugin, which automatically puts signs on players heads so that they don't have to solve the gaol mechanic themselves. Virtually every single UWU group uses this at this point

tbf its an awful mechanic and the alternative is spending 3-4 weeks on it because there's always 2-3 people in a group that can't grasp placements. i don't blame anyone for resorting to cactbot/triggers for uwu gaols.

same for everyone that uses triggers for Nael quotes in UCOB; its also an awful mechanic and nobody wants to read long sentences during a hectic phase.

[LittleImp]

tbf its an awful mechanic and the alternative is spending 3-4 weeks on it because there's always 2-3 people in a group that can't grasp placements. i don't blame anyone for resorting to cactbot/triggers for uwu gaols.

same for everyone that uses triggers for Nael quotes in UCOB; its also an awful mechanic and nobody wants to read long sentences during a hectic phase.

I kind of understand using plugins for communication heavy phases like gaols or tenstrike, particularly if you have mutes or people with accessibility issues.

Nael quotes on the other hand are imo a huge part of the intended design of those phases, and they aren't even that difficult to read since you're essentially just doing pattern recognition for single words. Using cactbot to call nael quotes is 100% a crutch.

[AnnRam]

People uses reshades/mods/etc since ARR don't be surprised if they never do something about it.

[PMSJordan]

The game's colors looks so flat without Gshade. That's the only addon I get behind. Makes a huge visual difference.

[van_arn]

I don’t particularly care about cosmetic options, but when people start messing with things that automate or time shift actions I want Square to step in hard.

[Jin-]

What about people using miqobot?

[Caurcas]

There wouldn't be a market for the most popular 3rd party addons if SE just gave us that information themselves.

[Adeacia]

There wouldn't be a market for the most popular 3rd party addons if SE just gave us that information themselves.

Perhaps they don't give you the info because you aren't meant to have it in the first place?

I also notice the very thing I've brought up in the past. People complain that they want harder content in the game, then make it as easy as possible for themselves when they get it because they don't actually want a challenge. They just want to try to say they are better than everyone else.

If they were actually as good as they claim, they could beat any fight in the game, including Ultimates, on their very first completely blind attempt with no deaths or third party tools.