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  1. #51
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    Theodric_Thorne's Avatar
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    I am not sure what the best way would be to bring this issue to the forefront and get the attention of the devs, but I would enthusiastically support any effort that was made.
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    I'm glad I'm not the only one clamouring for more freedom when it comes to Glamour! I really hope they'll actually acknowledge this at some point rather than just handwaving it as "immersion breaking" and so on, like they seem to have thus far...

    Also (I swear I'm not actually that dead set on AF gear being excluded but) something occurred to me just now... AF gear is marked as able to go into the Armoire where most other equipment isn't, so couldn't whatever bit of code dictates that also ensure it couldn't be used with anything but its intended class?
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 08-26-2021 at 05:25 PM.

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    Yot Suffy
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  4. #54
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one clamouring for more freedom when it comes to Glamour! I really hope they'll actually acknowledge this at some point rather than just handwaving it as "immersion breaking" and so on, like they seem to have thus far...

    Also (I swear I'm not actually that dead set on AF gear being excluded but) something occurred to me just now... AF gear is marked as able to go into the Armoire where most other equipment isn't, so couldn't whatever bit of code dictates that also ensure it couldn't be used with anything but its intended class?
    Wanted to say on the whole "immersion breaking" thing is nonsense due to some npcs wearing whatever they want with no restriction.

    I wanted to do a Lyon cosplay character but his whole gear is just a mess
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  5. #55
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    Lucien Lancret
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one clamouring for more freedom when it comes to Glamour! I really hope they'll actually acknowledge this at some point rather than just handwaving it as "immersion breaking" and so on, like they seem to have thus far...

    Also (I swear I'm not actually that dead set on AF gear being excluded but) something occurred to me just now... AF gear is marked as able to go into the Armoire where most other equipment isn't, so couldn't whatever bit of code dictates that also ensure it couldn't be used with anything but its intended class?
    I think if we want to get the devs to listen and not dismiss it like Yoshi-P did previously (where he complained about how a DRK would look using a CUL frying pan as a weapon, or something to that effect) we need to pre-empt the arguments about immersion by making it explicitly clear that we don’t want to switch weapon types or wear AF gear on the wrong class.

    I think that compromise is more than fair. A lot of the AF gear looks kind of samey anyway. The real draw of unrestricted glamour options would be to mix and match everything else in the game.
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    Didn't see this thread earlier (I hang out more on Reddit than the official forums for any game) but I just wanted to add my support, for what it's worth.

    I am tired of staring longingly at a Fitting Room window where my SAM character has this perfect lightweight plate armor outfit on, knowing I can never actually wear it even though there's no logical reason why not.



    The chest and boots here are Maiming gear, the legs and gloves are Striking gear. As long as I've got DRG leveled to 74 on this character, I should be able to wear this stuff.

    I can buy Ward Knight armor from the Mog Station, but I can't glamour the Ishgardian Banneret's set. They're almost identical sets. Why? All pretense of "visual identity" for jobs has gone out the window long ago.
    You can create this style look on samurai without needing those exact pieces. I saw one in game just last week dressed near identically to that, and the only reason it stuck in my mind was because I was surprised to see the person was a samurai and not a tank. I can't recall exactly which pieces, but I would try starting with the Replica Allagan Cuirass of Striking for the top
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I can't recall exactly which pieces, but I would try starting with the Replica Allagan Cuirass of Striking for the top
    The Allagan cuirass would work well, and there's also the all-classes Legacy armour from Mog Station – cheap in any case and currently (until tomorrow) on sale.

    I know you need thigh-length boots to work with that leg piece, since it's shorts under the skirty bit, but I'm sure we've got some kind of armoured boots somewhere.

    I've done a fully armoured look with my healer before.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    You can create this style look on samurai without needing those exact pieces. I saw one in game just last week dressed near identically to that, and the only reason it stuck in my mind was because I was surprised to see the person was a samurai and not a tank. I can't recall exactly which pieces, but I would try starting with the Replica Allagan Cuirass of Striking for the top
    You probably saw me. I am already using the Replica Allagan Striking gear in my leg and chest slots, and I can tell you that while they are in the same "weight class" as the Maiming pieces pictured above, they are flatly inferior. The trim on them is more of a brass/bronze color, not gold. There's no neck protection and the boots are inexplicably open-toed with black leather underneath.

    EDIT: Here's a comparison of what the Replica Allagan Striking gear in question looks like compared to the two crafted Maiming pieces I'd like to use.



    Note how they have a vaguely similar silhouette but are very much not conveying the same look, stylistically.
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    Last edited by Theodric_Thorne; 08-27-2021 at 06:27 AM.

  9. #59
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    I feel like the only restrictions on glamour should be:

    A. You have to have at least one job capable of equipping the piece you want to glam onto another.
    B. No glams between jobs of course, even if this wouldn't be a potential animation nightmare with job weaponskills/abilities.
    C. No glaming artifact sets for other jobs. The once per expansion sets that actually are iconic toward specific jobs.

    The role based gear, while there are a couple of trends like 'fending has a bit more armor' most of the time etc, don't really have anything to do with the specific roles, and many like the shisui and sky pirate sets really follow more of a general set theme than role themes anyway. Not to mention level 1 glam items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    I feel like the only restrictions on glamour should be:

    A. You have to have at least one job capable of equipping the piece you want to glam onto another.
    B. No glams between jobs of course, even if this wouldn't be a potential animation nightmare with job weaponskills/abilities.
    C. No glaming artifact sets for other jobs. The once per expansion sets that actually are iconic toward specific jobs.

    The role based gear, while there are a couple of trends like 'fending has a bit more armor' most of the time etc, don't really have anything to do with the specific roles, and many like the shisui and sky pirate sets really follow more of a general set theme than role themes anyway. Not to mention level 1 glam items.
    This could just be because I've had a long day, but I'm struggling to understand B. Can you elaborate on this one? X:
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