Wanna Glam it? Play it!

[Imora]

Gotta love that this thread is mostly about Dancers who are tired of looking like crap. :')

Well it's true.

Even better, I'll be male soon enough (bunboi!!) And I need stuff that looks good on them, and aiming gear? Isn't it.

[wereotter]

immersion is likely the excuse the developers use to cover up some more technical restriction. It's not unlike how they told us at first they didn't add the opposite sexes for viera and hrothgar becuase of lore, but then later confirmed it was because they didn't have the resources to add all four and only more recently have they managed to rework their processes to allow them to squeeze them in.

The fact that glamor is restricted to items you can currently equip on the job is likely connected to some code restriction that keeps them from expanding things out further, and unless they made all gear equippible by all classes, they may not be able to work around it.

[Iscah]

The fact that glamor is restricted to items you can currently equip on the job is likely connected to some code restriction that keeps them from expanding things out further, and unless they made all gear equippible by all classes, they may not be able to work around it.

That's what I expect to be the case.

They may not be able to create the semi-restricted situations like "everything but the relic gear" or "everything so long as you have the job levelled even if it's not what you're playing as right now".

It may be all or nothing, and they don't want it to be all so it has to be nothing – and because it's a technical issue and they don't like to admit they can't give people what they want, they tell you that you wouldn't want it anyway.

[Kemiko]

immersion is likely the excuse the developers use to cover up some more technical restriction. It's not unlike how they told us at first they didn't add the opposite sexes for viera and hrothgar becuase of lore, but then later confirmed it was because they didn't have the resources to add all four and only more recently have they managed to rework their processes to allow them to squeeze them in.

The fact that glamor is restricted to items you can currently equip on the job is likely connected to some code restriction that keeps them from expanding things out further, and unless they made all gear equippible by all classes, they may not be able to work around it.

Do you have citation on this? Any interview with Yoshida for Shadowbringers when it was upcoming and Hrothgar and Viera were announced he always explained it as a resource problem never a lore one. Unless you mean that Female Viera were chosen specifically because of their lore making them the only Viera ever seen in any game?

[Aurida]

The fact that glamor is restricted to items you can currently equip on the job is likely connected to some code restriction that keeps them from expanding things out further, and unless they made all gear equippible by all classes, they may not be able to work around it.

Yeah but you can mix and match items in the 'try on' window between different jobs just fine. I'm not going to say it's non-trivial to make a whole system via which the game checks if you have another job leveled to be able to glamour X piece of equipment, but I will say that 'it might be difficult for the devs to do' isn't a reason that loosening glamour restrictions shouldn't be done. Even if it's a utility that's unique to the glamour dresser

[wereotter]

Yeah but you can mix and match items in the 'try on' window between different jobs just fine. I'm not going to say it's non-trivial to make a whole system via which the game checks if you have another job leveled to be able to glamour X piece of equipment, but I will say that 'it might be difficult for the devs to do' isn't a reason that loosening glamour restrictions shouldn't be done. Even if it's a utility that's unique to the glamour dresser

You can try on anything, but that's not an issue of modeling, they've already completed that, and modeling on the character is all you're looking at in the changing room. You're not actually equipping the items. The proposed system is much more complex than just things you could currently be wearing but are not.

[Jettinson]

Doesn't scouting get the same treatment as aiming anyway more often than not? The Penelo outfit from Zadnor? As a DNC main it hurts, it just hurts.

Scouting is a bit of anything really. It can take from Striking or Aiming as major examples. It is inconsistent

And as the OP's suggestion, I love it too. It gives a nice goal for players aside for who wants to get their mount, title during their levelling experience while focusing on glamour.

I don't think we will ever get any actual all classes glamour replicas like sky pirate stuff sadly

[Kolsykol]

I am so conflicted about this.
I both agree and disagree.

I don't really think that swimwear etc is the same tho because that is more universal casual stuff, it's not '' gear '' in that same sense and you don't get it from dungeons and raids.
It's more like fluff that people can all still use.
Yes people can still mog it as a tank, but I don't think that it's the same thing as a healer for example getting Fending gear in a dungeon and then using it.

With that said tho I still kinda want this too because as a MNK I like to have my torso loose and then my arms and legs armored.
I kinda like that a lot visually but I do feel rather limited.
I really want more stuff for my MNK like Lyse's leg piece in her early Stormblood attire for example and tanks have basically all of that.

[Tsiron]

I don't think we will ever get any actual all classes glamour replicas like sky pirate stuff sadly

By the time I started playing these were already implemented so I've always wondered... What's the story behind the Replica Sky Pirate stuff anyway? What prompted the devs to just release a whole collection as level 1 All Classes gear and how do we get them to do so again?

I could see the YoRHa sets get the Replica treatment sooner or later, they're literally just clothes!

I am so conflicted about this.
I both agree and disagree.

I don't really think that swimwear etc is the same tho because that is more universal casual stuff, it's not '' gear '' in that same sense and you don't get it from dungeons and raids.
It's more like fluff that people can all still use.
Yes people can still mog it as a tank, but I don't think that it's the same thing as a healer for example getting Fending gear in a dungeon and then using it.

With that said tho I still kinda want this too because as a MNK I like to have my torso loose and then my arms and legs armored.
I kinda like that a lot visually but I do feel rather limited.
I really want more stuff for my MNK like Lyse's leg piece in her early Stormblood attire for example and tanks have basically all of that.

I'm struggling to phrase this right but... I think everyone having more freedom coming with the "risk" of someone out there maybe putting together a Glamour that doesn't make sense for their role (which... again, plenty do already) is not much of a debate in my opinion

[TheMightyMollusk]

By the time I started playing these were already implemented so I've always wondered... What's the story behind the Replica Sky Pirate stuff anyway? What prompted the devs to just release a whole collection as level 1 All Classes gear and how do we get them to do so again?

The original Sky Pirate and Sky Rat gear was locked behind the original Diadem. Since that version is no longer available, they made the Replica crafted versions, and unlocked them from class restrictions to make them more enticing to lure more crafters into the Ishgard Restoration.