How to Build a PLD, needing tips plz.

[Aceofspades]

I hate to get sucked in, but please Ace, read your own quote here,

Sure the Defense and Vit numbers look pretty, but you realize for all those stats you're still using cooldowns given to the average Joe Pld? The massive hp that some use (myself included) is to keep from getting 1shot by just about anything in game. It also increases enmity through Spirit's Within, and is just more useful all around for a pld tank, be it a turtle tank or not. I have nearly the same mitigation as you just suggested in your post, and yet I have roughly 70 less defense and 30 less vit. In the grand scheme of things, for all the melds and stat stacking you do, you don't have very much more than I, however I have 1500 hp more. This huge hp allows 1 to be lazy, for I can "super" tank anything in game.

curious then, what your materia build is? i have double on all but the shield and triple on the shield, enless your adding 3 materias or more to your gear your claims are unlikely. But I will not say it is not true as far as your claim for hp being MORE usefull all around that is simply un true, even Primals do more physical damage then magical , outside of primals dev/vit is certainly the clear winner, soo again, Even though I can respect your opinion, I strongly disagree, If we were on the same server I am down for any challange put forth if anyone wanted to challange my claims. Other then that we will simply have to agree to disagree. oh and btw, 1500 hp is only and advantage untill the first 1500 damage taken, after that it is simply add HP that your WHM has to keep up with , and have a harder time doing soo, You claim you can take the same numbers as me, Again, I am up to any challange, I honestly and seriously doubt your claim's validity

[Tman]

We are on the same server Ace so by all means hit me up. That being said i'll move from the forums to /t in game so as not to muddy up this page. And also to sate your curiosity, I am fully tripled on everything save the pants (double IV and I didn't do them) as well as single gauntlets since they keep blowing up >.<

[Aceofspades]

We are on the same server Ace so by all means hit me up. That being said i'll move from the forums to /t in game so as not to muddy up this page. And also to sate your curiosity, I am fully tripled on everything save the pants (double IV and I didn't do them) as well as single gauntlets since they keep blowing up >.<

First I would Like to say, NICE! 3 teir 4 each, well done. Secondly I would like to say, that actually makes more sense. I currently am working on stacking 3 16+ def on to a hq vintage kite shield, then will move on to 3 teir 4 vit on the sward and soo on and soo forth, Not saying HP stack wont work, just if compaired in equally materiaed gear, def and vit has proven to have far more benificial effects then HP given the opertunity to have triple stacked gear rough numbers off the top of my head I would be sporting 800+ def and 400+ vit before any buffs that would be one hell of a turtle lol. As far as your invite, I am soo down! chr name is Aceofspades Aircav , /t me anytime you get a chance, soo long as the pt set up is unbiased and fair I am more then willing to subject my self to testing

[SwordCoheir]

curious then, what your materia build is? i have double on all but the shield and triple on the shield, enless your adding 3 materias or more to your gear your claims are unlikely. But I will not say it is not true as far as your claim for hp being MORE usefull all around that is simply un true, even Primals do more physical damage then magical , outside of primals dev/vit is certainly the clear winner, soo again, Even though I can respect your opinion, I strongly disagree, If we were on the same server I am down for any challange put forth if anyone wanted to challange my claims. Other then that we will simply have to agree to disagree. oh and btw, 1500 hp is only and advantage untill the first 1500 damage taken, after that it is simply add HP that your WHM has to keep up with , and have a harder time doing soo, You claim you can take the same numbers as me, Again, I am up to any challange, I honestly and seriously doubt your claim's validity

Not all that surprising or hard to do really, you can put HP more or less on any piece of meldable gear but can only stack VIT on Body, Swords, and Legs, and Def on Body and Shield. It make's it alot harder to try and compete against the flexibility of HP with restricted armor limits, and even more of a pain when they continue to add more types of materia on armor pieces that already has too many choices to begin with.

[Aceofspades]

Not all that surprising or hard to do really, you can put HP more or less on any piece of meldable gear but can only stack VIT on Body, Swords, and Legs, and Def on Body and Shield. It make's it alot harder to try and compete against the flexibility of HP with restricted armor limits, and even more of a pain when they continue to add more types of materia on armor pieces that already has too many choices to begin with.

I agree that HP being able to be added to every slot you can add materia makes it a very flexable materia. However thats not to say that you cant avoid HP materia all together and still build a kick ass turtle tank set. Utalizing ever benficial stat for PLD its actually not that hard at all. I will say tho, would be nice to get a vit or def or vit/def materia for the feet or hands , or hell , even bring back "magic def" and let us add that to a slot that DEF is not already available in. Reguardless HP is only as usefull as you WHMs can keep up , where as DEF and VIT actually give breathing room for your WHMs to worry less about spaming heals and can actualy use other aspects of their job to support the tank and party.

Also , She noted that she has all but one triple stacked materia, sadly I am not that far yet, but with miner to 50 now, its only a mater of time. given that extra teir 4 on each peice of gear , I am confidant a def/vit build would make coin counter look like a pus, hell, I kinda already do that LOL