Dps vs Healing misstarget settle argument

[Zenai10]

Now that i've moved on from this argument I'd like to get some healers advice on if I was doing too much dps and learn from it. But first, this is 100% my fault the tank died thats not the argument. Was first time in Brayflox's Longstop, did a big pull that I caught up too after watching the cutscene. Was going okay but I wasn't really prepared for how much damage was being taken, i've basicly been green dps up to this point. Whatever about the pull, I did some rocks, did some cure 2s was going okay, was dropping to 300-500 probably a bit too low in hindsight. The main cause of the argument was, I was casting stone, finished stone, then cast cure 2, but accidentally cast it on myself rather than the tank. The tank proceded to die during the next cast. I believe swiftcast was on cd.

the argument was basicly, im dpsing too much and that got the tank killed, while I think if I hit him with that cure 2 he would have been fine. The result was me not dpsing for the rest of the dungeon. Is it my fault due to too much dps or missing the cure 2 cast. Should I not be letting them get basicly 1 failed cure away from death? i've usually been healing around half-40% hp as long as i know they wont die during my cast due to high damage.

[Liam_Harper]

Like you said, you mis-cast Cure II. That's easily enough to kill a tank on a big pull at that level. Sounds like you're doing fine. Don't let one mistake get you down, everyone makes countless mistakes on their journey through the game.

Letting the tank be one failed cure 2 away from death is fine, because if you don't put yourself in these solutions you aren't going to learn to not fail any Cure II's. Being in those situations heightens your awareness of party health and what you can and can't get away with, which leads to both being a better healer and more valuable to the group on damage. Stick with it.

[IckeDerTyp]

Ya did fine!

Also, a wipe a day keeps the doc' at bay ^^

[Rilifane]

You tried, you failed and the tank died.
Don't worry about it, it's not the end of the world. Mistakes happen while learning but if you're trying to avoid any situation that could lead to mistakes, you're never going to learn either. I had this happen to me so many times when first learning FFXIV healer in ARR... in addition to several "oops locked myself in Cleric Stance, guess we're dead".
You're not tunneling or dpsing too much, you're just trying to find the sweet spot for when to heal and that's a good thing.
You will probably make several more mistakes but you're doing fine and it sounds like you already have a pretty good idea about when healing is neccessary and when it's not. You just misclicked. So keep going, keep throwing Stones

[IceBlueNinja]

Hate to be negative but amma be honest. Healers sadly dps way too much I feel to the point that I dont believe they are so called experts cause they wanna out dps actual dps which i doubt is not possible vs jobs like blm or sam. Whm is top guilty on this at least an ast or sch may be qhick to hit es or lust. Idk if its the sound of stones breaking on enemies is so enticing like alluring embrace. Even things trials and raids exs savages when I see how my co healer perform again my top fav thing as example emerald weapon orb mechanic after poping 1 ball healer should pop a fast quick heal via swift to soak other ball as you have so few seconds to get the other. co healer too busy dpsing that either them and partner die or half people die or everyone die. It as bad as if 2 or more people die and i cast res but co healer still dpsing and doing 0 res?

I say this in all post a heal bot and green dps bot is both bad balance is key and remember u cant out dps most dps jobs as healer. something like bard maybe but not a sam or blm unless they dont know how the rotation works. Balance is key do everything but then again whm dont even have much party things to give in support vs ast and sch so guess no wonder they so dps bot minded. If you rather pleasure of beating others in dos. Dps jobs is way to go.

[Acece]

I rather get a healer who dps too much then a healer that doesn't dps. You're learning so making mistakes happens, just learn and limit test on tanks.

[Marc-Vigar]

Please don't become one of those healers that let tanks drop to 10% because they are DPSing, being constantly in the edge of death is bad, specially for the tank's heart. As with everything in life, balance is the key.

I recommend that you follow this priority list:

1. Safety over DPS, always. If you are unsure about the incoming damage from a mechanic or a pull, stop DPSing and top off everyone just in case.

2. The priority list for healing is: Healer>Tank>DPS. If tank dies, you can raise him and he'll keep aggro even if some DPS dies in the process. If you die, it's most likely a wipe, so prioritize urself over everyone else.

3. If you know the incoming damage and you can handle it, do DPS, but never people drop below 50-70%, because if they fail a mechanic or step on an AoE they are going to die. If unsure about incoming damage, check point 1.

Optimization of DPS and heals comes with experience, so just keep playing, watch guides, ask better players and limit test yourself.

Everyone who plays healer has missclicked and wiped the party at some point in their career, that's fine as long as it doesn't happen often, after that you have to learn how to avoid getting to the point where 1 missed heal makes you wipe.

[IceBlueNinja]

Please don't become one of those healers that let tanks drop to 10% because they are DPSing, being constantly in the edge of death is bad, specially for the tank's heart. As with everything in life, balance is the key.

I recommend that you follow this priority list:

1. Safety over DPS, always. If you are unsure about the incoming damage from a mechanic or a pull, stop DPSing and top off everyone just in case.

2. The priority list for healing is: Healer>Tank>DPS. If tank dies, you can raise him and he'll keep aggro even if some DPS dies in the process. If you die, it's most likely a wipe, so prioritize urself over everyone else.

3. If you know the incoming damage and you can handle it, do DPS, but never people drop below 50-70%, because if they fail a mechanic or step on an AoE they are going to die. If unsure about incoming damage, check point 1.

Optimization of DPS and heals comes with experience, so just keep playing, watch guides, ask better players and limit test yourself.

Everyone who plays healer has missclicked and wiped the party at some point in their career, that's fine as long as it doesn't happen often, after that you have to learn how to avoid getting to the point where 1 missed heal makes you wipe.

I 1million agree with you please call on me if you dont wanna be at 10% hehehe.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

You’ve identified & learnt your mistakes + you owned it. Congratulation! That is also part of the learning process. Next time you will do better & well prepared.

Like people said: $h!t happens. It’s not the end of the world. Even veterans can still slip off from time to time. If you ever seen one of those super-healer that seemed to handle everything without breaking a sweat, remember that at some point, they’ve also made that same mistake as you do now. They worked past it & they become better at juggling their responsibilities.

We won’t learn to be better unless we test our limits, reasonably that is

[Mortex]

It’s all about experience after some time you see how much the individual tank takes dmg wise with and without cd. Also every tank being different (some use all tools they have, some do not and some don’t use any) makes it also challenging and fun.