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  1. #101
    Player
    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    While I would agree we could desperately use a proper glamour log instead of the glamour dresser, and that there should be away to make all of the currencies we get go into the currency tab some of these ideas just aren't always feasible. We have to remember that there is a technical limitation and as someone else pointed out the recent chip shortage is going to make getting around that far harder and far far more expensive. As for a crafting mats storage, that's not as feasible as you would think. One game mentioned that has it is ESO. So let us look at how it works there and how Zenimax gets away with it. One, your bank is account wide. You don't get a separate bank per character. All of your characters share the same bank. That saves them space to add things like the collections tab and the crafting mats storage. In addition crafting can only ever be done at crafting stations, which limits the amount of information transfer. Just like our retainers only being accessible at certain spots. I can almost guarantee that most of the crafting community would riot if we took away the ability to craft anywhere away just to make a crafting mats tab. Especially with the fact that we have crafting Beast Tribe quests and the custom deliveries.
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  2. #102
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    Violyre's Avatar
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Am I the crazy one? I go out and farm materials as needed. The only ingredients I actually keep in stock are like tomestone items or certain items constantly used in end-game crafting (Sublime solution and slithersand, for current examples.). Also supplies that only come from airships/subs. Things I can't just pop on over and pick up, or send my retainers to pick up.

    Oh no! I have an HQ item that's causing things to take up two spaces! Let me just lower quality that, because you don't really need the HQ mats if your gear is good enough~

    I have all of my Grade VII and VIII materia, as well as all crafting/gathering materia in my saddlebag. I've slowly been phasing out the VII though because I never use them.

    Also in my saddlebag are tokens from Eureka, Bozja, ShB Alliance and Savage raids, as well as assorted relics because those are things I am working on.

    I have to admit that I don't see a reason to carry around every damn dye in the game. Just get them as you need them, maybe keep the jet black and pure white ones because they're expensive.

    I will give you bait. Bait has always needed SOMETHING done for it. I think the older expansions should get condensed into maybe a couple lures when new expansions are released, that would help immensely, since they're said a "tackle box" thing is not able to be done. Maybe only have unique bait for big fish in the old zones.

    I will also give you items that are used for glamour. While they've said it's not possible to make a catalog type thing, I think a couple things should be changed. For example, the supposed reason for not being able to store Mog Station purchases in the armoire is supposedly because only achievement items can go in there. While I don't think that's 100% true (Because I know I didn't get an achievement when I got my preorder earring and that can go in there, or maybe I'm just thinking of the Calamity Salvager), they could have a section of 0 point achievements. Instead of buying the item, you're buying the achievement unlock. That achievement then rewards a coffer of the gear. Because it's an achievement, it can go in the armoire under a new "Store Purchases" section. Maybe also allow people to "convert" their level 1 glamour gear into this 0 point achievement. This leaves the current dresser for items that aren't level 1.

    We're already getting a few additional slots for weapons and rings with Endwalker, and the removal of belts will solve a lot of issues as well. Unless you're one of those people that hoard obsolete items. More power to you.

    Hopefully I've been able to present some ideas to get you started on a way to a cleaner inventory, and maybe some ideas of ways to improve.
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  3. #103
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
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    This is also good information!

    I provided a nifty graphical guide to how, after or while levelling classes, ones armory chest should look. It's hard to see how, even levelling all classes at once, one could run out of armory space. If you've got more than 27 items in one section of the armory then... go through your armory and toss stuff out that you don't need.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  4. #104
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Nope. The paradox is that more storage doesn't necessarily mean less storage problems. It has been a noted effect that humans tend to fill storage rather than dispose of things until they reach the limit on how much they can store at which point they choose between either expanding storage or disposal of excess items.

    Even if you had 1400 retainer slots and 1000 glamour cabinet slots you would still be running into storage problems after a while.
    Well, when the game adds 800+ gear items each expansion and only 100 glamour slots inventory bloat tends to happen.

    Same when they add 80+ "Currencies" that go into your inventory each expansion.

    Again, that's not even touching crafting where multiple recipes can require anywhere from 6-10 separate items each.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    I will give you bait. Bait has always needed SOMETHING done for it. I think the older expansions should get condensed into maybe a couple lures when new expansions are released, that would help immensely, since they're said a "tackle box" thing is not able to be done. Maybe only have unique bait for big fish in the old zones.
    You can tell the FFXIV Devs attempted to rectify this by adding Freshwater and Saltwater Boilies but then they didn't go far enough and they're pretty useless as they can't hook most fish.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 08-23-2021 at 09:48 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #105
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre_Noireau View Post
    I cannot belive these people defending SE on this one.
    There are already games out there that do item managment way better than SE does: GW2 and ESO as the better examples of proper itemization.

    The reality is: The devs didn't create a proper inventory system and then when people started facing issues they monetized on it through bank space (retainers).

    YET ANOTHER example of SE profiting from clear design issues they have no intention to fix excused on poor server structure-capabilities-networking-coding-PS6 limitations. Whatever, covid even, as of late all fanboys love to use that one - Even if most problems prominent in this game date from... 2013. Inventory space has ALWAYS been an issue.
    Yeah, pretty much. Can't add more space but you sure can buy it and suddenly server limitations aren't an issue anymore. /shrug
    Gamers are a special kind of... um.. naive? And that's putting it mildly.
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  6. #106
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Re:Bait

    Of course a bait box would be nice, but it’s not really necessary.

    There’s no real reason to keep bait. Just buy what you think you’ll need for the day’s fishing run. It’s not expensive, and almost all bait can be bought in the zone it’s used.
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  7. #107
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Yeah, pretty much. Can't add more space but you sure can buy it and suddenly server limitations aren't an issue anymore. /shrug
    Gamers are a special kind of... um.. naive? And that's putting it mildly.
    A dollar a month for up to 8 full retainers is not a big cost. Because not everyone gets extra retainers, it’s not a big deal server-wise and those dollars go a fair ways towards costs. Suddenly giving the entire population is an entirely different thing.

    People who complain about space need to seriously investigate their options because there are lots of options.

    (As in, you can get 8 characters for the same price most people are paying for 1, each with 1-2 retainers. That is a huge amount of space available to you, right here, right now)
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  8. #108
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Would probably be less complaining about storage if the game made it easier to trade or send things between characters you have on the same account on the same world. Then we'd just have alot more ppl making alts like we did back in FFXI.
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  9. #109
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    Kalli Porfiriobren
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I would love the armoury chest at least or bare minimum the ring slot to be bigger.
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  10. #110
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    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    they could create a bag just like the epic bag of holding of D&D, with infinite inventory space, a bag, thats inside ur inventory.
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